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- u Oct 24, 24, 02:49:05 AM
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- u Oct 24, 24, 03:01:57 AM
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yeah i want to know too! i have to admit to beig one that looks for alot of casinos to play at that offer non deposits welcome boneses or more than one non deposits bonuses inbetween deposits . i just like to take advantage of good opporuities to win real money with depositing little as possible but sometimmes i do like to also play and deposit money but i dont want to make a bad habit of it because i dont want to gammble all my money away . And being honest i havent always done so good th cashing out with non deposit bonuses maybe over a handful of times and now it seems like i already signedup for every casino that offers such bonuses in my country so that sucks n im kinda bummed out about it plus they seem to be giving out less n less codes that are non deposits too anymore
da i ja želim da znam! Moram da priznam da se bavim onim koji traži mnogo kazina za igranje u kojima nude bonuse dobrodošlice bez depozita ili više od jednog bonusa bez depozita između depozita. Ja samo volim da iskoristim dobre mogućnosti da osvojim pravi novac sa što manje depozita, ali ponekad volim da igram i deponujem novac, ali ne želim da imam lošu naviku od toga jer ne želim da prokockam sav svoj novac . I da budem iskren, nisam uvek radio tako dobro da sam isplaćivao bonuse bez depozita možda nekoliko puta, a sada se čini da sam se već prijavio za svaki kazino koji nudi takve bonuse u mojoj zemlji, tako da je to sranje i malo sam se ljutio na to plus čini se da daju manje n manje kodova koji više nisu depoziti
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- u Oct 24, 24, 03:12:20 AM
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- u Oct 24, 24, 04:30:17 AM
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Hi guys,
Feel free to have a look on this article where you may find important facts on casino whoring.
Hope this helps
zdravo momci,
Slobodno pogledajte ovaj članak u kojem možete pronaći važne činjenice o kurvi u kazinu.
Nadam se da ovo pomaže
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- u Oct 24, 24, 06:36:53 PM
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i dont understand whats so funny lol i mean i kinda do but i cant be the only one lol it must be funy that i literally probably , no definatley signed up for every casino i could oh well lol
Ne razumem šta je tako smešno, lol, mislim da radim, ali ne mogu da budem jedini lol, mora da je smešno što sam bukvalno verovatno, nijedan se definitivno nije prijavio za svaki kazino, mogao bih dobro lol
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- SwiftKey123
- u Oct 25, 24, 06:33:41 AM
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Wow, that's exactly I want to know also. Can someone explain to me what's the meaning of Casino Whoring. PleaseVau, upravo to i ja želim da znam. Može li neko da mi objasni šta znači Casino Vhoring. molim te -
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- u Oct 25, 24, 06:40:43 AM
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I guess from what I've read it means exactly what I tend to do. But I guess it's not a bad thing just people shouldn't casino slut shame I guess lol. But I guess it means someone that is a bonus hunter and casino 'whoring' is when someone looks for bonuses and places that offer them bonuses that they might be smart and skilled enough to withdraw . Probably signing up for a lot of casinos and trying to take advantage of every bonus there is especially the non deposit bonuses . Idk I do this .
Pretpostavljam da iz onoga što sam pročitao to znači upravo ono što radim. Ali pretpostavljam da nije loša stvar samo da ljudi ne bi trebalo da se srame kazino drolja, valjda lol. Ali pretpostavljam da to znači da neko ko je lovac na bonuse i kurva u kazinu je kada neko traži bonuse i mesta koja mu nude bonuse koje bi mogao biti dovoljno pametan i vešt da ih povuče. Verovatno se registrujete za mnogo kazina i pokušavate da iskoristite svaki bonus, posebno bonusi bez depozita. Idk radim ovo.
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- u Oct 25, 24, 06:42:11 AM
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I am always happy and looking for codes that I can use on my tabby or Brando or extreme or limitless or pacific spins or anywhere really and if I don't have to make a deposit and I haven't before and I still can use a code with the real chance to withdrawal money I get super happy and excited about that .
Uvek sam srećan i tražim kodove koje mogu da koristim na svom tabbiju ili Brandu ili ekstremnim ili neograničenim ili pacifičkim okretanjima ili bilo gde zaista i ako ne moram da napravim depozit, a nisam ranije i još uvek mogu da koristim kod sa stvarnom šansom za povlačenje novca. Veoma sam srećan i uzbuđen zbog toga.
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- u Oct 25, 24, 06:44:36 AM
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But to be honest here lately they don't offer no more codes and always say your bonus ratio is too high and it's been a long time since I got tp play on brango or extreme . Sometimes I try to request someone from customer support to help me and see if they will redeem it for me but they never do no matter what and even sometimes when it's telegram codes everyone is suppose to use they still say I must deposit first and it just kinda bums me out
Ali da budem iskren, ovde u poslednje vreme ne nude više kodova i uvek kažu da je vaš odnos bonusa previsok i prošlo je mnogo vremena otkako sam igrao na brango ili ektreme. Ponekad pokušavam da zatražim od nekoga iz korisničke podrške da mi pomogne i vidim da li će to iskoristiti za mene, ali oni nikada ne rade bez obzira na sve, a čak i ponekad kada svi treba da koriste kodove telegrama oni i dalje kažu da moram prvo da uplatim i to samo nekako me izluđuje
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- u Oct 25, 24, 06:47:26 AM
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I honestly wished I could make more deposits but here lately I just don't have the means but if I could I definitely would . Just been out of work and I just down on my luck and it just really bums me out when I feel like they aren't understanding of that and just treat me like I'm a bum and they don't want to help me at all unless I was making a deposit . Really makes me feel like the casinos are rigged sometimes and even if I did get a non deposit code to work I fear that my accounts have been flagged or something as a bonus hunter and I'll never win to cash out . But maybe I'm wrong
Iskreno, želeo sam da mogu da napravim više depozita, ali ovde u poslednje vreme jednostavno nemam sredstava, ali da mogu, definitivno bih. Upravo sam ostao bez posla i samo sam na svojoj sreći i stvarno me nervira kada se osećam kao da oni to ne razumeju i da me tretiraju kao da sam klošar i da ne žele da mi pomognu u sve osim ako nisam dao depozit . Zaista se osećam kao da su kazina ponekad nameštena, pa čak i ako dobijem šifru bez depozita da radi, bojim se da su moji računi označeni ili tako nešto kao lovac na bonuse i da nikada neću pobediti da bih isplatio novac. Ali možda grešim
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- zunairain
- u Oct 25, 24, 11:27:37 AM
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I just like to take advantage of good opporuities to win real money with depositing little as possible.And being honest I havent always done so good the cashing out with non deposit.
Ja samo volim da iskoristim dobre mogućnosti da osvojim pravi novac uz što manje depozita. I da budem iskren, nisam uvek bio tako dobar u isplati bez depozita.
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- u Oct 25, 24, 05:16:30 PM
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ive done decent . i quickly learn different strategies and learned how to take my time and other little different things but i know its mostly luck and im trying to get the hand at tournements i won low winnings with them so far like 6 dollars on everygame and 4 dollars at grand vegas
ive done decent . Brzo sam naučio različite strategije i naučio kako da uzmem svoje vreme i druge male različite stvari, ali znam da je to uglavnom sreća i pokušavam da dobijem ruku na turnirima, do sada sam sa njima osvojio male dobitke kao što je 6 dolara na svakoj utakmici i 4 dolara na velikom vegasu
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- u Oct 25, 24, 05:18:01 PM
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also just learnig how casinos like crypto loko have free tournements but they only allow you to play one in between depsoits which i think is crazy and that also means beeen wastng alot of time playing their tournemts
takođe samo naučim kako kazina kao što je kripto loko imaju besplatne turnire, ali oni vam dozvoljavaju da igrate samo jedan između depozita što mislim da je ludo, a to takođe znači da ste gubili mnogo vremena igrajući njihove turnire
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- u Oct 28, 24, 09:14:21 AM
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Its an old term that we used back in the day when we were hunting for blackjack casino bonuses. Back in those days these bonuses were quite profitable, with low wagering requirements.
To je stari izraz koji smo koristili u vreme kada smo tražili bonuse u kazinu za blackjack. U to vreme ovi bonusi su bili prilično profitabilni, sa niskim zahtevima za klađenje.
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- mustanggirl
- u Nov 24, 24, 07:54:15 PM
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I have signed up to way to many as well. LOL But, the non-depoist bonuses were very attractive, and was able to cash out a few. So I would have to say there is a fine line between Casino Whoring and a Smart Player. lol. I play all the free spins that are available to me and lately have cashed out many times, some small , some larger. But, certainly easier on sites that don't require wagering
I ja sam se prijavio za mnoge. LOL Ali, bonusi bez depozita su bili veoma atraktivni i mogli su da unovče nekoliko. Tako da moram da kažem da postoji tanka linija između kurve u kazinu i pametnog igrača. lol. Igram sve besplatne okrete koji su mi dostupni i u poslednje vreme sam mnogo puta unovčio, neke male, neke veće. Ali, svakako lakše na sajtovima koji ne zahtevaju klađenje
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- Bamboozled
- u Dec 28, 24, 05:29:18 AM
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So from what I can tell, casino whoring is basically just signing up at a large number of different casinos and taking advantage of as many no deposit bonuses as one can possibly take advantage of. I did not know this term until literally just now but I am absolutely a casino whore and didn't even know it lol. Good luck!
Dakle, iz onoga što mogu da kažem, kurva u kazinu je u suštini samo prijavljivanje u veliki broj različitih kazina i iskorištavanje onoliko bonusa bez depozita koliko neko može da iskoristi. Nisam znala ovaj izraz do sada bukvalno, ali ja sam apsolutno kurva u kazinu i nisam ga ni znala lol. Srećno!
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- u Dec 28, 24, 07:44:18 AM
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Bamboozled wrote:
So from what I can tell, casino whoring is basically just signing up at a large number of different casinos and taking advantage of as many no deposit bonuses as one can possibly take advantage of. I did not know this term until literally just now but I am absolutely a casino whore and didn't even know it lol. Good luck!
pretty much it
Bamboozled je napisao:
Dakle, iz onoga što mogu da kažem, kurva u kazinu je u suštini samo prijavljivanje u veliki broj različitih kazina i iskorištavanje onoliko bonusa bez depozita koliko neko može da iskoristi. Nisam znala ovaj izraz do sada bukvalno, ali ja sam apsolutno kurva u kazinu i nisam ga ni znala lol. Srećno!
prilično to
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- Phucku
- u Dec 31, 24, 10:31:04 PM
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When I'm withdrawing from my free spins, I always take 10 or 15 bucks and deposit. It keeps the free spins coming for me on all the casinos. I'm also ahead on Extreme, brango and I just withdrew the other day. I made a few 50 and $80 deposit too but I withdrew a couple hundred at a time too? In total ive withdrew/deposited over a thousand bucks throughout the casinos within the last 6 months. At one point in time I was $15 dollars in the hole. I just started the casino thing about 6 months ago so we'll see how long till they ban me. Also don't don't even deal with Enclave login sites. I had four of those lined up ready to withdraw but after reading reviews I'm not going to deposit 10 bucks just to lose it. I don't know if any of those casinos are legit. Some of them do pay out but you only get the one chance
For reference Mr O you get five bonuses between deposit and with Eternal slots you get 10 bonuses between the deposits. Goat spins you only get the one. They're all owned by the same people
Kada povlačim sa svojih besplatnih okretaja, uvek uzimam 10 ili 15 dolara i deponujem. Ostavlja mi besplatne okrete u svim kockarnicama. Takođe sam ispred Ektreme-a, Brango i upravo sam se povukao pre neki dan. I ja sam napravio nekoliko depozita od 50 i 80 dolara, ali sam podigao i nekoliko stotina odjednom? Ukupno sam povukao/deponovao preko hiljadu dolara u kazinu u poslednjih 6 meseci. U jednom trenutku bio sam 15 dolara u rupi. Upravo sam počeo sa kazinom pre nekih 6 meseci pa ćemo videti koliko će mi zabraniti. Takođe nemojte se baviti ni sajtovima za prijavu u Enklavu. Imao sam četiri od njih poređanih spremnih za povlačenje, ali nakon čitanja recenzija neću da položim 10 dolara samo da bih ih izgubio. Ne znam da li je neko od tih kazina legalno. Neki od njih se isplate, ali imate samo jednu šansu
Za referencu Mr O dobijate pet bonusa između depozita, a sa Eternal slotovima dobijate 10 bonusa između depozita. Koza vrti samo jednu. Svi su u vlasništvu istih ljudi
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- Phucku
- u Dec 31, 24, 10:36:44 PM
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The way it's all set up it's kind of like if you don't deal with the free spins you're going to fuck up a perfectly good deposit. Had to read a book on every one of these damn casinos. Most of them are stupid proof, but some of them leave the programming Open to allow you to fuck everything up. If it's on a computer, then they can make the programming stupid proof. Leaving a faulty program saves them money. There are some situations like the bet amount that they have issues with being able to control that individually.
Način na koji je sve postavljeno je kao da ako se ne bavite besplatnim okretanjima, zajebaćete savršeno dobar depozit. Morao sam da pročitam knjigu o svakom od ovih prokletih kazina. Većina njih su glupi dokazi, ali neki od njih napuštaju program Open kako bi vam omogućili da zajebete sve. Ako je na računaru, onda mogu programiranje učiniti glupim dokazom. Napuštanje neispravnog programa štedi im novac. Postoje neke situacije kao što je iznos opklade da imaju problema sa mogućnošću da to kontrolišu pojedinačno.
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- Phucku
- u Jan 01, 25, 11:44:40 AM
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So I know of eight and generous casinos. Extreme Yabby, etc( probably adrenaline also, but I don't like it's set up and games) and the Mr O group( excluding goat spins stingy ass). Do you know any other generous casinos? There are several rival casinos that will give you multiple chips, there's definitely a trust issue with most of them. I do like rival games and I've been looking for a generous rival games casino that I could deposit at. For unlicensed and unregulated it's been a good gauge of trust to make them send me money first. I have four Enclave casinos that I did the wagering on but found out they just hand out bonuses trying to get your verification deposit. I'm yet to hear of a legitimate Enclave login the casino. Basically you got one shot and the rest is just suckerbate with them. A different game provider would be great, but I figure this other ones are going to cut me off eventually.
You mentioned no wagering, haven't seen any available to USA. Other than deposit bonuses that include no wagering spins. Usually at a casino that my no deposit $30 chip just went straight down the drain. It'd be great to get some names even for people that are in other countries. All the bonus sites list scam casinos for the revenue I guess.
Tako da znam za osam i velikodušnih kazina. Ektreme Iabbi, itd (verovatno i adrenalin, ali mi se ne sviđa što je namešteno i igrice) i Mr O grupa (izuzimajući koza vrti škrto dupe). Da li znate još neko velikodušno kazino? Postoji nekoliko rivalskih kazina koji će vam dati više čipova, a kod većine njih definitivno postoji problem poverenja. Volim rivalske igre i tražio sam velikodušan kazino suparničkih igara u koji bih mogao da položim depozit. Za nelicencirane i neregulisane, to je bio dobar pokazatelj poverenja da mi prvo pošalju novac. Imam četiri Enklava kazina na koje sam se kladio, ali sam otkrio da samo dele bonuse pokušavajući da dobiju vaš depozit za verifikaciju. Još nisam čuo da se legitimna Enklava prijavila u kazino. U suštini, imate jednu šansu, a ostalo je samo napast sa njima. Drugi provajder igara bi bio sjajan, ali pretpostavljam da će me ovi drugi na kraju prekinuti.
Pomenuli ste da nema klađenja, niste videli ništa dostupno za SAD. Osim bonusa za depozit koji ne uključuju okretanje klađenja. Obično u kazinu moj čip od 30 dolara bez depozita jednostavno ode u vodu. Bilo bi sjajno dobiti neka imena čak i za ljude koji su u drugim zemljama. Svi bonus sajtovi navode prevare kazina za prihode, pretpostavljam.
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- Amber Cook
- u Jan 02, 25, 11:58:04 PM
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I don't know if the def of "casino whoring" is as straight forward as I am assuming, but I'm going to post as if it is. I suspect I may be a casino whore , in fact I do love to use the No Deposit Bonuses as often as possible. I also make frequent deposits at the casinos I try out if I like them. I found MrO on this forum and I play there often. Back to my thought, I do enjoy the NDB and have been fortunate enough to be able to cash out several hundred dollars at 3 casinos and almost 3000 at Spree from a NDB . So if this is the def for casino whoring, I must admit I am in fact one. Happily!
Ne znam da li je definicija "kurve u kazinu" tako direktna kao što pretpostavljam, ali objaviću kao da jeste. Pretpostavljam da sam možda kurva u kazinu, u stvari volim da koristim bonuse bez depozita što je češće moguće. Takođe često uplaćujem depozite u kockarnicama koje isprobavam ako mi se sviđaju. Našao sam MrO na ovom forumu i često igram tamo. Da se vratim na svoje mišljenje, uživam u NDB-u i bio sam dovoljno srećan da mogu da unovčim nekoliko stotina dolara u 3 kazina i skoro 3000 u Spree-u iz NDB-a. Dakle, ako je ovo definicija za kurvu u kazinu, moram priznati da sam to u stvari. Srećno!
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- Amber Cook
- u Jan 03, 25, 12:05:14 AM
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Thanks for the information, I have been curious about this very thing. I have played at a few Enclave log in sites, but haven't won enough to make the withdrawal process worth while. I have been playing pretty consistently on MrO and have made a few withdrawals with no real issues. I have had trouble with a few different places when trying to collect, but that's a whole different post. Again, thank you for the info and confirmation about the Enclave sites. Confirmed my suspicions.
Hvala na informacijama, baš me zanima ova stvar. Igrao sam na nekoliko Enclave sajtova za prijavljivanje, ali nisam osvojio dovoljno da bi proces povlačenja vredeo vremena. Igrao sam prilično dosledno na MrO i napravio sam nekoliko povlačenja bez pravih problema. Imao sam problema sa nekoliko različitih mesta kada sam pokušavao da sakupim, ali to je sasvim drugačiji post. Još jednom, hvala vam na informacijama i potvrdi o sajtovima Enklave. Potvrdio moje sumnje.
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- hobitgirli
- u Feb 06, 25, 07:48:29 AM
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Oh my, and in my mind casino whoring is casino which is trying to sell itself to me by giving little bit taste what it can offer to me if I pay; giving like nodeposit spins and money to try how it feels before money chance owner
O moj, i u mom umu kazino kurva je kazino koji pokušava da mi se proda dajući malo ukusa šta mi može ponuditi ako platim; davanje poput nodeposit spinova i novca da isprobate kako se oseća pre nego što vlasnik novca
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- krissa
- u Feb 13, 25, 04:14:31 AM
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Basically it's just signing up at every single casino that has a good sign up bonus
U suštini, to je samo prijavljivanje u svakom kazinu koji ima dobar bonus za registraciju
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- hobitgirli
- u Feb 13, 25, 04:03:32 PM
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Well anyway good deal to all, customer get chance to try new casino, casino get new customer and affiliate get possibility to earn. And if customer is happy and "casino whoring" continue by that casino keep customer happy customer continue also depositing money.
that I would call win-win situation in best case
U svakom slučaju dobar posao za sve, kupac dobija priliku da isproba novi kazino, kazino dobija novog klijenta, a partner dobija mogućnost zarade. A ako je klijent zadovoljan i "kurva u kazinu" se nastavi u tom kazinu, ostavite klijenta zadovoljnim da i dalje deponuje novac.
to bih u najboljem slučaju nazvao vin-vin situacijom
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- Cedalex
- u Mar 11, 25, 07:54:55 PM
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I often wonder why I should part with my hard-earned money without first sampling a few games to ensure they truly capture my interest. After all, it’s not just about spending; it’s about making informed choices that enhance my gaming experience. However, as time passes and new releases come and go, that list of potential favorites I want to explore grows shorter, reminding me that opportunities are fleeting. as time goes on, that list of options does begin to dwindle.
Često se pitam zašto bih se odvojio od svog teško zarađenog novca, a da prethodno nisam probao nekoliko igara kako bih se uverio da zaista zaokupe moje interesovanje. Na kraju krajeva, ne radi se samo o trošenju; radi se o donošenju informisanih izbora koji poboljšavaju moje iskustvo igranja. Međutim, kako vreme prolazi i nova izdanja dolaze i odlaze, lista potencijalnih favorita koje želim da istražim postaje sve kraća, podsećajući me da su prilike prolazne. kako vreme prolazi, ta lista opcija počinje da se smanjuje.
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- Phucku
- u Mar 15, 25, 11:19:24 PM
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I thought it would take a long time before I went thru most of the sign up bonuses, but it took about 8 months.
MISTAKES:
went for the best offers first. I didn't even care about cashing out, I just wanted to play
Went below minimum cashout thinking I would be fine. You can always send some funds back if you want to play more. I've done this several times and I kick myself for not cashing out when I could.
Learn the rules. I messed up a few bonuses by no knowing the rules. Most casinos have about the same rules. Max cash out is important, $25 isn't worth it. Too many bonuses, I have several enclave sites with my funds still sitting there, but I know they will disqualify it. They won't tell you until after the verification deposit.
Mislio sam da će proći dosta vremena pre nego što prođem kroz većinu bonusa za registraciju, ali je trebalo oko 8 meseci.
GREŠKE:
prvo je otišao na najbolje ponude. Nisam ni mario za keširanje, samo sam hteo da igram
Išao sam ispod minimalne isplate misleći da ću biti u redu. Uvek možete vratiti neka sredstva ako želite da igrate više. Uradio sam ovo nekoliko puta i sam sebe izbadao što nisam unovčio kada sam mogao.
Naučite pravila. Zabrljao sam nekoliko bonusa ne poznavajući pravila. Većina kazina ima približno ista pravila. Maksimalni iznos gotovine je važan, 25 dolara nije vredno toga. Previše bonusa, imam nekoliko sajtova enklava sa mojim sredstvima i dalje tamo, ali znam da će ih diskvalifikovati. Reći će vam tek nakon depozita za verifikaciju.
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- Cat50
- u Mar 17, 25, 10:53:07 AM
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That is great advice and i am sorry you learned such a hard lesson. I have been around for years and i did the same thing when i was new. Live and learn....glgl .
To je sjajan savet i žao mi je što ste naučili tako tešku lekciju. Postojim godinama i radio sam istu stvar kada sam bio nov. Živi i uči....glgl .
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