Addiction is a nasty disease. It gets ahold of you and it is almost impossible to break yourself from its grip.
I have fought the addiction demon for most of my life, and today I am still fighting.
Both of my parents were addicts, my father was murdered over drugs, and my mother was high when she took her own life.
I almost lost my life to this disease. I came within weeks of losing my children forever. I was an ugly person inside, and I didn't care who I hurt as long as I got high. I wasn't a good person, mother, friend, or daughter.
I was addicted to Meth for 4 years. I am proud to say that I am clean and sober today, I have been clean for 4 years in December. I know it's not that long, but everyday that I stay clean I feel so much stronger.
I am a different person today, and although I will always be an addict, I am glad to say that addiction doesn't control me anymore.
I will continue to fight.
:-*
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Original Prevod Prevedeno saZavisnost je gadna bolest. Zahvaća vas i gotovo je nemoguće da se izvučete iz njegovog stiska.
Borio sam se sa demonom zavisnosti veći deo svog života, a danas se još uvek borim.
Oba moja roditelja su bili zavisnici, moj otac je ubijen zbog droge, a moja majka je bila naduvana kada je sebi oduzela život.
Skoro sam izgubio život od ove bolesti. Došao sam za nekoliko nedelja nakon što sam zauvek izgubio svoju decu. Bio sam ružna osoba iznutra, i nije me bilo briga koga ću povrediti sve dok sam se naduvao. Nisam bila dobra osoba, majka, prijateljica ili ćerka.
Bio sam zavisnik od Meth 4 godine. Sa ponosom mogu da kažem da sam danas čist i trezan, čist sam već 4 godine u decembru. Znam da nije tako dugo, ali svakim danom kada ostanem čist, osećam se mnogo snažnije.
Danas sam druga osoba, i iako ću uvek biti zavisnik, drago mi je što mogu da kažem da me zavisnost više ne kontroliše.
nastaviću da se borim.
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- u Jun 19, 10, 06:45:19 AM
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Praying for you. As a psychologist who used to help families dealing with addiction, you sure have the right attitude!
Moliti za tebe. Kao psiholog koji je pomagao porodicama koje se bore sa zavisnošću, sigurno imate pravi stav!
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- u Jun 19, 10, 12:22:25 PM
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Mommy.. i umm.. feel you dearly.. i write a journal.. im going to show you my front page..
As i sat there... pouring my quiet affliction, the silence devouring my avid addiction...
My mind wandering to distant places... trying to keep up with that "extacy" of mine...
Bearing my will through time untold... driving myself insane, how good it felt...
Looking up, i only found a pale dark sky, I... slipping through like a hole in glittering sand..
My life was here... represented by this void, and endless dreams i never had...
I'm going to try to write about this bitter/sweet... i get emotional because i lost so so much
It's hard to understand, the only one that could is one thats been there.... strong enough to survive..
To have the strength to let go... you have to hold on.. getting to sober is only half as hard as staying there..
Just having no drugs or alcohol in you doesn't mean your okay and it's all better... its a slow process..
Theres alot of paranoia and confusion, you're in disarray, things don't look, sound or feel real...you were drunk or high all the time...
Causing ill choices and wrong descions, it's like sitting in a fog.. slowly it subsides revealing... my gosh.. the shocking everything..
You don't jump back into life as if it was so suddenly clear and beautiful, though it is..you'll come across all that was ugly as well..
At nitemarish porportions, you can't run.. you face it.. look Vivi.. look what you done to yourself.. your body shakes and craves, your mind has been tossed and lost, ashamed, alone in fear... your heart and soul aches for freedom.. the mirror is taking you half way there...
This is where it begins, your first step... your first descion to just do it.. the mirror knows you're not afraid, do you really want to die?
Okay.. now it's time to learn to live..
High.. The descending sweetness..
Aboard the round river raft, spinning the journey from atop the valley.. downward winding on a rapid river boat ride, "let me off" you'll scream...
sick and dizzy, that begins to fade... with no thoughts, no direction, just blurred recycled non-reality..all matters obsolete
loving losing your mind.. the thrill standing still.. the blurr becomes your best friend, into this world you are obscuring,
escaping life as you know..you find yourself again and again waiting in line without patience.. for what will become your favorite ride....
He comes to your door and wants you to play, so you cautiously agree and say..
"ok", but "only this once"..you tell him real stern, "theres alot about you i don't want to learn".
You play for a while, its just for fun, but little do you know the games just begun.
See, once you agree to go out and play, you give up your freedom, and he leads the way.
You'll say "its no big deal, i still have control"... but little by little he lures you to his hole.
Before you know it, nothings the same, you're ashamed and embarressed to even admit your name.
You'll have no money, no pride, no soul but still you'll insist, "i've got control"
Its been what seems like years gone by since that first day, you have few memories, since you started on your way.
Theres been nothing accomplished, the bills hardly get paid, and you.. you're always afraid.
Locked in your room... "i've still got control" you'll suddenly find your own self betrayed..
You take it easy for a week or so, but then he comes back, and you can't say no,
he laughs and he laughs, he knows you are weak.. he totally gets off on making you tweak...
The enemy game..
I'll be back to write more.... i'm going to add more daily, my mind is still hazy
i'll add as it comes to me, then i'll put it all togther, so it might seem a little scattered for now...
This is my front page.. you're not alone.. :'( ... but as you i am proud where i am now..
Thank you for sharing Mommy.. my prayers are in..Mama.. ja umm.. osećam te drago.. pišem dnevnik.. pokazaću ti svoju naslovnu stranu..
Dok sam sedeo tamo... izlivajući svoju tihu nevolju, tišinu koja proždire moju strastvenu zavisnost...
Moj um luta na daleka mesta... pokušavajući da održim korak sa tom svojom "ekstazom"...
Noseći svoju volju kroz vreme neispričano... izluđujući sebe, kako sam se osećao dobro...
Gledajući gore, našao sam samo bledo tamno nebo, ja... provlačim se kao rupa u svetlucavom pesku...
Moj život je bio ovde... predstavljen ovom prazninom, i beskrajnim snovima koje nikad nisam imao...
Pokušaću da pišem o ovom gorkom/slatkom... Postajem emotivan jer sam toliko izgubio
Teško je razumeti, jedini koji bi mogao je onaj koji je bio tamo.... dovoljno jak da preživi..
Da imaš snagu da se pustiš... moraš da izdržiš.. otrezniti se samo je upola teže nego ostati tamo..
Samo to što nemate drogu ili alkohol u sebi ne znači da ste dobro i sve je bolje... to je spor proces.
Ima puno paranoje i konfuzije, u neredu si, stvari ne izgledaju, ne zvuče ili se ne osećaju stvarno... stalno si bio pijan ili napušen...
Prouzrokujući loše izbore i pogrešne odluke, to je kao sedenje u magli.. polako jenjava otkrivajući... bože.. šokantno sve..
Ne skačeš u život kao da je odjednom bio tako jasan i lep, iako jeste..naići ćeš i na sve što je bilo ružno..
U mračnim porcijama, ne možeš da trčiš.. suočiš se sa tim.. pogledaj Vivi.. vidi šta si uradila sebi.. telo ti se trese i žudi, um ti je potresen i izgubljen, posramljen, sam u strahu... srce i duša te boli za slobodom.. ogledalo te vodi na pola puta...
Ovde počinje, tvoj prvi korak... tvoj prvi korak da to jednostavno uradiš.. ogledalo zna da se ne plašiš, da li stvarno želiš da umreš?
U redu.. sada je vreme da naučite da živite..
Visoko.. Silazeća slast..
Na okruglom rečnom splavu, okrećući put sa vrha doline... vijugajući naniže u brzoj vožnji rečnim čamcem, "pusti me" vrisnut ćeš...
bolestan i vrtoglav, to počinje da bledi... bez misli, bez pravca, samo zamagljena reciklirana nestvarnost.. sve stvari su zastarele
voliš da gubiš razum.. uzbuđenje stoji mirno.. zamagljenost postaje tvoj najbolji prijatelj, u ovaj svet koji zatamnjuješ,
bežeći od života kao što znate..iznova se nađete kako čekate u redu bez strpljenja.. za ono što će postati vaša omiljena vožnja....
On dolazi na tvoja vrata i želi da se igraš, pa ti oprezno pristaneš i kažeš..
"ok", ali "samo ovaj put".. kažeš mu stvarno strogo, "ima puno o tebi što ne želim da učim".
Igrate neko vreme, samo iz zabave, ali malo znate da su igre tek počele.
Vidite, kada jednom pristanete da izađete i igrate, odričete se svoje slobode, a on vodi.
Reći ćete "nije velika stvar, ja još uvek imam kontrolu"... ali malo po malo on vas mami u svoju rupu.
Pre nego što shvatiš, ništa nije isto, stidiš se i stidiš se čak i da priznaš svoje ime.
Nećete imati novca, ponosa, duše, ali ćete ipak insistirati, "ja imam kontrolu"
Od tog prvog dana prošlo je ono što izgleda kao da su godine prošle, imate malo uspomena, otkako ste krenuli svojim putem.
Ništa nije urađeno, računi se jedva plaćaju, a vi... uvek se plašite.
Zaključani u svojoj sobi... "još uvek imam kontrolu" odjednom ćete naći sebe izdanog..
Lako se smiriš nedelju dana, ali onda se on vrati i ne možeš da kažeš ne,
on se smeje i on se smeje, zna da si slab.. totalno se skida od toga da te tera da podešavaš...
Neprijateljska igra..
Vratiću se da pišem više.... dodavaću još svakodnevno, moj um je još uvek maglovit
Dodaću kako mi padne na pamet, onda ću sve to spojiti, tako da možda izgleda malo razbacano za sada...
Ovo je moja naslovna strana.. nisi sam.. :'( ... ali kao ti ja sam ponosan gde sam sada..
Hvala ti što si podelila mamu.. moje molitve su u... -
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Hi Mommy,
I want to commend you on your courage to write what you did. You are such an inspiration for others. Your candid personal experience only gives me the greatest respect for you!
I am proud to know you have been clean or four years. Addiction is something that is a up hill battle for the rest of your life. You are proving that your climbing that hill straight to the top!
Your life my darling sweetheart has been a rough road. But you have persevered and your reward is a great family. I admire you for not being bitter given the heartache you have endured.
If you stood before me now i would give you a great big hug!!! Thank you for being such a wonderful, sincere and warm person within our LCB family!
LipsZdravo, mama,
Želim da vas pohvalim na hrabrosti da napišete ono što ste uradili. Ti si takva inspiracija za druge. Vaše iskreno lično iskustvo mi daje samo najveće poštovanje prema vama!
Ponosan sam što znam da ste čisti ili četiri godine. Zavisnost je nešto što je borba uzbrdo do kraja života. Dokazuješ da se penješ na to brdo pravo do vrha!
Tvoj život, draga moja, bio je težak put. Ali vi ste istrajali i vaša nagrada je velika porodica. Divim ti se što nisi ogorčen s obzirom na bol u srcu koju si pretrpeo.
Da si sada stajao ispred mene, zagrlio bih te sjajno!!! Hvala vam što ste tako divna, iskrena i topla osoba u našoj LCB porodici!
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Addiction is a nasty disease. It gets ahold of you and it is almost impossible to break yourself from its grip.
I have fought the addiction demon for most of my life, and today I am still fighting.
Both of my parents were addicts, my father was murdered over drugs, and my mother was high when she took her own life.
I almost lost my life to this disease. I came within weeks of losing my children forever. I was an ugly person inside, and I didn't care who I hurt as long as I got high. I wasn't a good person, mother, friend, or daughter.
I was addicted to Meth for 4 years. I am proud to say that I am clean and sober today, I have been clean for 4 years in December. I know it's not that long, but everyday that I stay clean I feel so much stronger.
I am a different person today, and although I will always be an addict, I am glad to say that addiction doesn't control me anymore.
I will continue to fight.
:-*
...youre not alone in this struggle
Zavisnost je gadna bolest. Zahvaća vas i gotovo je nemoguće da se izvučete iz njegovog stiska.
Borio sam se sa demonom zavisnosti veći deo svog života, a danas se još uvek borim.
Oba moja roditelja su bili zavisnici, moj otac je ubijen zbog droge, a moja majka je bila naduvana kada je sebi oduzela život.
Skoro sam izgubio život od ove bolesti. Došao sam za nekoliko nedelja nakon što sam zauvek izgubio svoju decu. Bio sam ružna osoba iznutra, i nije me bilo briga koga ću povrediti sve dok sam se naduvao. Nisam bila dobra osoba, majka, prijateljica ili ćerka.
Bio sam zavisnik od Meth 4 godine. Sa ponosom mogu da kažem da sam danas čist i trezan, čist sam već 4 godine u decembru. Znam da nije tako dugo, ali svakim danom kada ostanem čist, osećam se mnogo snažnije.
Danas sam druga osoba, i iako ću uvek biti zavisnik, drago mi je da kažem da me zavisnost više ne kontroliše.
nastaviću da se borim.
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- u Jun 19, 10, 12:47:55 PM
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Wow mommy, very straight to the gut with this. I'm sorry you went through all of that. I'm a child of druggies too. I never did drugs, probably because I was an only child and we literally moved every 6 months or so town to town, (I think so I wouldn't get taken away and they would lose government funds) and i learned to blend in and be the adult in the family. I learned to be alone all the time, even when they were there. I learned that my friends could never come over because that would mean my 'parents' would have to not do drugs for one night. I remember talks like 'you can't say that stuff Lyn, do you want to go live someplace else? Do you want them to come take you away from your mom and never see her again?' So I learned silence. I was out on my own at 15 though, not because I had the problem, but because they finally gave in completely and lost all electricity, power, food, jobs, etc. and were basically camping at their trailor doing meth. The final straw was when I woke up in the middle of the night to find a stranger sitting on my bed going through my things smoking a pipe. I moved in with friends so I could graduate a year and half early from high school. I guess I went the opposite direction, I hated them and I hate drugs, yet they formed who I am I guess. My stepdad (never met my real dad big surprise) died of liver cancer, and I found out that the docs didn't help him much because they kept finding crank in his system. My mom died 2 years ago of lung cancer, she made it the longest, but she killed herself too, in a way i won't go into right now. So I feel you, I do. Addiction has manifested itself in gambling for me but I recognized that years ago and got some counseling to help sort it all out in my head. Now I can enjoy playing, and it doesn't control me. You almost never stood a chance because you had almost no role models, yet look at you! You're a great mom and friend and person. I'm happy to know you.
Vau mamice, ovo je pravo u stomak. Žao mi je što si prošao kroz sve to. I ja sam dete narkomana. Nikada se nisam drogirao, verovatno zato što sam bio jedino dete i bukvalno smo se selili svakih 6 meseci iz grada u grad (mislim da me ne bi odveli i da bi izgubili vladina sredstva) i naučio sam da se uklapam i biti odrasla osoba u porodici. Naučio sam da budem sam sve vreme, čak i kada su oni bili tamo. Saznao sam da moji prijatelji nikada ne mogu da dođu jer bi to značilo da bi moji 'roditelji' morali da se ne drogiraju jednu noć. Sećam se razgovora tipa „ne možeš to da kažeš, Lin, da li želiš da živiš negde drugde? Hoćeš da dođu da te odvedu od mame i da je više nikad ne vide?' Tako sam naučio ćutanje. Izašao sam sam sa 15 godina, ali ne zato što sam imao problem, već zato što su se konačno potpuno predali i izgubili svu struju, struju, hranu, poslove itd. i u osnovi su kampovali kod svoje prikolice radeći met. Kap koja je prelila čašu je bila kada sam se probudio usred noći i zatekao stranca kako sedi na mom krevetu i pregleda moje stvari i puši lulu. Preselio sam se kod prijatelja da bih završio srednju školu godinu i po ranije. Pretpostavljam da sam krenuo u suprotnom smeru, mrzeo sam ih i mrzim drogu, a ipak su oni formirali ko sam ja pretpostavljam. Moj očuh (nikad nije doživeo veliko iznenađenje mog pravog oca) umro je od raka jetre, a ja sam saznao da mu doktori nisu mnogo pomogli jer su stalno nalazili kretnju u njegovom sistemu. Moja mama je umrla pre 2 godine od raka pluća, ona je to najduže preživela, ali se i ona ubila, na način na koji sada neću ulaziti. Tako da te osećam, osećam. Zavisnost se kod mene manifestovala u kockanju, ali sam to prepoznao pre mnogo godina i dobio savet da to sredim u svojoj glavi. Sada mogu da uživam u igri, a to me ne kontroliše. Skoro da niste imali šanse jer skoro da niste imali uzore, ali pogledajte se! Ti si sjajna mama i prijatelj i osoba. Drago mi je što te poznajem.
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- u Jun 19, 10, 12:52:46 PM
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Imagin- beautiful writing, thank you for sharing. I got chills when i read it because it is so familiar watching my family members. I remember my mom climbing the walls literally when she was out, it was awful. You are so strong, and so brave to share your personal feelings and thoughts. Thank you.
Zamislite - prelepo pisanje, hvala što ste podelili. Naježila sam se kada sam je pročitala jer mi je tako poznato gledati članove moje porodice. Sećam se da se moja mama pela na zidove bukvalno kada je bila napolju, bilo je užasno. Tako ste jaki i tako hrabri da podelite svoja lična osećanja i misli. Hvala vam.
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- Lipstick
- u Jun 19, 10, 01:00:42 PM
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Ahhh tood......you too are an awesome person. You are always keeping it real and it is what i most admire about you. I have followed you and read your blogs.
There is a lot to be said about coming from the school of hard knocks. There is one of 2 paths to take being brought up in it. The ones who choose the right path are the teachers of the world. In so many cases, i feel that these are the most real and genuine souls among us. It takes pain and sorrow that builds fine character and gives them wisdom.
I sense your wisdom and your strength and i must say i am proud to know you and have you as part of the forum as well.
LipsAhhh takođe...... i ti si sjajna osoba. Uvek to držiš stvarnim i to je ono čemu se najviše divim kod tebe. Pratio sam vas i čitao vaše blogove.
Ima mnogo toga da se kaže o dolasku iz škole teških udaraca. Postoji jedan od 2 puta koji treba ići da budete vaspitani u njemu. Oni koji biraju pravi put su učitelji sveta. U toliko slučajeva osećam da su to najstvarnije i najiskrenije duše među nama. Potrebni su bol i tuga koji izgrađuju dobar karakter i daju im mudrost.
Osećam vašu mudrost i snagu i moram reći da sam ponosan što vas poznajem i što ste takođe deo foruma.
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- u Jun 19, 10, 01:41:53 PM
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Imagin- beautiful writing, thank you for sharing. I got chills when i read it because it is so familiar watching my family members. I remember my mom climbing the walls literally when she was out, it was awful. You are so strong, and so brave to share your personal feelings and thoughts. Thank you.
Well, me like you i spent my life hating drugs and alcohol.. i grew up with family members who did use them, that reflection and those memories kept me away.. and their lives to this day are in shambles (shame and scramble).. but i fell, there were things that were happening in my life and for some reason i felt it was all i had to turn to.. this is recent for me..in secret, nobody knew.. it was 2 years i spent a slave, in those 2 years i lived for it, and i would die for it..strange to have only that to live and die for.. but in my life its all i cared for.. its all that existed..
A horrible thing happened that devasted and horrified my brother who found me, it took that to reveal as Mommy said, how nasty this disease is..
Toodle and Mommy, both of you are commended and admired greatly.. it is a strong battle either way.. but we win..
Zamislite - prelepo pisanje, hvala što ste podelili. Naježila sam se kada sam je pročitala jer mi je tako poznato gledati članove moje porodice. Sećam se da se moja mama pela na zidove bukvalno kada je bila napolju, bilo je užasno. Tako ste jaki i tako hrabri da podelite svoja lična osećanja i misli. Hvala vam.
Pa, ja sam kao ti proveo život mrzeći drogu i alkohol.. odrastao sam sa članovima porodice koji su ih koristili, taj odraz i ta sećanja su me držali podalje.. i njihovi životi su do danas u rasulu (sramota i strka) .. ali pao sam, bilo je stvari koje su se dešavale u mom životu i iz nekog razloga sam osećao da je to sve čemu moram da se obratim.. ovo je nedavno za mene.. u tajnosti, niko nije znao.. bilo je 2 godine. proveo roba, u te 2 godine sam živeo za to, i umro bih za to..čudno da imam samo za to da živim i umrem.. ali u mom životu je sve do čega mi je bilo stalo.. to je sve što je postojalo..
Desila se užasna stvar koja je uništila i užasnula mog brata koji me je pronašao, to je trebalo da otkrije kako je mama rekla koliko je ova bolest gadna..
Tudl i mama, obojica ste pohvaljeni i veoma vam se dive.. to je jaka bitka u svakom slučaju.. ali mi pobeđujemo.. -
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- MommyMachine
- u Jun 19, 10, 02:45:21 PM
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It is an uphill battle indeed. I am lucky enough to live in a place where it is no longer around me. In Vegas it was everywhere...I remember spending my time downtown wondering where I was going to get my next high. Or where I was going to stay for the night... UGH. I am soo glad that is behind me.
I met my husband 5 years ago, he was working as Security at the Gold Spike Casino downtown Las Vegas. He has never done drugs, and he stood by me through the worst of times. He actually had a HUGE part of me getting clean and getting my children back.
Imagin. I know where you are at right now, and stay strong, we can beat this!
Toodle, I thought when I was growing up I would never touch the stuff because I seen what it did to my parents, I was wrong, I became them.
:-*To je zaista teška bitka. Imam sreću da živim na mestu gde ga više nema oko mene. U Vegasu je bilo svuda... Sećam se da sam provodio vreme u centru pitajući se gde ću da dobijem sledeći maksimum. Ili gde sam htela da prenoćim... UGH. Tako mi je drago što je to iza mene.
Upoznala sam svog muža pre 5 godina, radio je kao obezbeđenje u Gold Spike kazinu u centru Las Vegasa. Nikada se nije drogirao i stajao je uz mene u najgorim trenucima. On je zapravo imao VELIKU ulogu u tome da se očistim i vratim svoju decu.
Imagin. Znam gde ste trenutno, i ostanite jaki, možemo da pobedimo ovo!
Tudl, mislio sam kada sam odrastao da nikada neću dirati stvari jer sam video šta je to uradio mojim roditeljima, pogrešio sam, postao sam oni.
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It is an uphill battle indeed. I am lucky enough to live in a place where it is no longer around me. In Vegas it was everywhere...I remember spending my time downtown wondering where I was going to get my next high. Or where I was going to stay for the night... UGH. I am soo glad that is behind me.
I met my husband 5 years ago, he was working as Security at the Gold Spike Casino downtown Las Vegas. He has never done drugs, and he stood by me through the worst of times. He actually had a HUGE part of me getting clean and getting my children back.
Imagin. I know where you are at right now, and stay strong, we can beat this!
Toodle, I thought when I was growing up I would never touch the stuff because I seen what it did to my parents, I was wrong, I became them.
:-*
Before this, it was me who pulled so many friends out of their bad situations, the lectures i told, the help they needed, the shelter and strong hand and mind they needed to stay away.. I pulled my daughters father from so many of those places on Fremont.. where he sold his jewelry, food, our VCR's, telephones, TV's, while i'm at work he would take all my money (i made tips) even my car once.. my car, my livelyhood.. i'd have to go in and pay to get these items back, a drug dealer holding and having my stuff i worked hard for. The shame and the tongue lashing i would put him through, the anger and not truely understanding caused more... his guilt would keep him straight for a while.. but.. he was back again before long..we broke up it was one of the reasons..i was so anti-drug.. insisting i would never live my life with someone who did them and a person who didn't think me and my daughter were enough to stop... how wrong i am..
I once took a friend right up to the doors of drug rehab which she fought very hard, making every excuse..she was so bad off on that hard hard, that dirty dirty.. she had sores coming through her skin.. the poison from it.. she went in.. within a few days she left.. vowing never to do them again.. a promise she broke..
When i go back and think about this.. that for it to happen to me.. leads me to beleive it can happen to anyone.. the first time it is your choice.. the next is not..
To je zaista teška bitka. Imam sreću da živim na mestu gde ga više nema oko mene. U Vegasu je bilo svuda... Sećam se da sam provodio vreme u centru pitajući se gde ću da dobijem svoj sledeći maksimum. Ili gde sam htela da prenoćim... UGH. Tako mi je drago što je to iza mene.
Upoznala sam svog muža pre 5 godina, on je radio kao obezbeđenje u Gold Spike kazinu u centru Las Vegasa. Nikada se nije drogirao i stajao je uz mene u najgorim trenucima. On je zapravo imao VELIKU ulogu u tome da se očistim i vratim svoju decu.
Imagin. Znam gde ste trenutno, i ostanite jaki, možemo da pobedimo ovo!
Tudl, mislio sam kada sam odrastao da nikada neću dirati stvari jer sam video šta je to uradio mojim roditeljima, pogrešio sam, postao sam oni.
:-*
Pre ovoga, ja sam izvukao toliko prijatelja iz njihovih loših situacija, predavanja koja sam održao, pomoć koja im je bila potrebna, sklonište i jaka ruka i um koji su im bili potrebni da se drže podalje.. Izvukao sam oca svoje ćerke iz mnogih ona mesta na Fremontu.. gde je prodavao svoj nakit, hranu, naše video-rekordere, telefone, televizore, dok sam ja na poslu uzeo bi sav moj novac (davao sam napojnice) čak i auto jednom.. moj auto, moju egzistenciju. Morao bih da uđem i platim da dobijem ove predmete nazad, diler droge drži i ima moje stvari za koje sam naporno radio. Sramota i lupkanje jezikom kroz koje bih ga doveo, bes i nerazumevanje izazvali su više... njegova krivica bi ga držala pravo na neko vreme.. ali.. ubrzo se vratio.. raskinuli smo, bilo je jedan od razloga..bio sam toliko protiv droge.. insistirao da nikada ne bih živeo svoj život sa nekim ko ih je uradio i sa osobom koja nije mislila da smo ja i moja ćerka dovoljni da prestanemo...kako grešim. .
Jednom sam odveo prijateljicu do vrata odvikavanja od narkotika protiv koje se jako borila, praveći svaki izgovor.. bila je tako loša na tom teškom teškom, tako prljavom.. imala je čireve kroz kožu.. otrov od toga.. ušla je.. u roku od nekoliko dana je otišla.. zavetovala se da ih više nikada neće učiniti.. obećanje koje je prekršila..
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Mommy...may God Bless you and yours.
(and all of us who need his help)Mama...neka Bog blagoslovi tebe i tvoje.
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- u Jun 19, 10, 06:36:47 PM
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My sister is still in its grips. She lost everything, her home her job, and now her children are gone, they have been adopted, and she can't see them. I wish I could help her, but I believe you have to want it for yourself.
She has hepatits from IV drug use, she is homeless, and I am scared for her. Please pray that she overcomes this disease before it is too late.
:-*Moja sestra je još uvek u rukama. Izgubila je sve, dom svoj posao, a sada su joj deca nestala, usvojena su, a ona ne može da ih vidi. Voleo bih da mogu da joj pomognem, ali verujem da to moraš želeti za sebe.
Ima hepatitis od IV upotrebe droga, beskućnica je, a ja se bojim za nju. Molite se da ona pobedi ovu bolest pre nego što bude prekasno.
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I feel ya Mommy, i have 2 older brothers(same mother different fathers whom they lived with for a while) one was 8 ballin and drinking, slipped into a coma for 45 days, this was his first encounter with it being a medical condition, when he awoke he had been diagnosed with hepatitis and diabeties brought on by his alcohol and drug addition, he's joined AA and he went sober.. but even with this he slipped back so many times. My other brother was an alcoholic,addicted to gambling and did drugs occasionally, but also ended up in the hospital him being diagnosed with scorosis(am i spelling that right?) liver disease also having hepatitis this one is missing for about 5 years now..he lost everything as well.. and just went to walking the streets.. we can't find him anywhere, he doesn't even know our mom passed.
My youngest sister is addicted to pain killers (all kinds) and mixes that with speed, thing with her is she is very level headed..hard to explain her outside self seems to have it under control.. this is if it is around she does it if not she doesn't..her inside self it could be a different story.. she could be like me and did what i did to hide it as to how bad it is.. so i worry constantly, she lives in another state so it's hard..
My parents drank on the weekends and would get drunk, we lived in the same house for 15 years, my father was a good example and my mother was the normal housewife mother.. my brothers father was an alcoholic as well and did die from it, it makes me wonder is it somehow this disease be genetically connected?
I have 1 brother who is straight he is the one who found me he is 2 years younger then me, he's the one who has been my strength and has been by my side through it, his patience, his love and understanding has been a blessing..
Vegas holds the 3 highest addictions.. gambling, drugs and alcohol and it's everywhere.. it is also the highest transient city..Osećam te, mama, imam 2 starija brata (ista majka različiti očevi sa kojima su živeli neko vreme) jedan je imao 8 balina i pio, pao je u komu 45 dana, ovo mu je bio prvi susret da je to zdravstveno stanje, kada se probudio, dijagnostikovan mu je hepatitis i dijabetes izazvan dodavanjem alkohola i droga, pridružio se AA i otreznio se.. ali čak i sa ovim se toliko puta povukao. Moj drugi brat je bio alkoholičar, zavisnik od kockanja i povremeno se drogirao, ali je takođe završio u bolnici kada mu je dijagnostikovana skoroza (da li tačno pišem?) bolest jetre takođe ima hepatitis, a ovaj nedostaje već oko 5 godina. .i on je sve izgubio.. i samo je otišao da šeta ulicama.. nigde ga ne možemo naći, on čak i ne zna da je naša mama prošla.
Moja najmlađa sestra je zavisna od tableta protiv bolova (svih vrsta) i meša to sa brzinom, stvar kod nje je da je veoma stabilna..teško je objasniti da njeno spoljašnje ja izgleda ima to pod kontrolom.. ovo je ako je oko nje radi ako ne ona ne..njena unutrašnja bi mogla biti druga priča.. mogla bi biti kao ja i uradila je ono što sam ja uradio da to sakrije koliko je loše.. pa stalno brinem, ona živi u druga država pa je teško..
Moji roditelji su pili vikendom i napili bi se, živeli smo u istoj kući 15 godina, moj otac je bio dobar primer a moja majka je bila normalna majka domaćica.. i otac moje braće je bio alkoholičar i umro je od toga , tera me da se zapitam da li je ova bolest nekako genetski povezana?
Imam 1 brata koji je strejt, on je taj koji me je pronašao, on je 2 godine mlađi od mene, on je taj koji je bio moja snaga i bio je uz mene kroz to, njegovo strpljenje, njegova ljubav i razumevanje su bili blagoslov ..
Vegas ima 3 najveće zavisnosti.. kockanje, droga i alkohol i svuda je.. takođe je i najviši prolazni grad.. -
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- u Jun 19, 10, 10:26:32 PM
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I totally believe that it is genetically connected. I believe that addiction is hereditary. I know some believe it isn't though.
My sister is also out in Las Vegas, so it's hard for me as I cannot see her. I just hope she wakes up soon. She is only 28 years old, she could still have her whole life ahead of her...
:-*Potpuno verujem da je to genetski povezano. Verujem da je zavisnost nasledna. Znam da neki veruju da nije.
Moja sestra je takođe u Las Vegasu, pa mi je teško jer ne mogu da je vidim. Samo se nadam da će se uskoro probuditi. Ona ima samo 28 godina, još uvek može da ima ceo život pred sobom...
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- u Jun 19, 10, 10:33:29 PM
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I think that "addiction" is the gene in our blood that is passed and holds the disease, like lurking or waiting.. and then it is catagorized by which it is and spreads or is triggered by that that is addicting.
This is what i beleive...
My younger brother who has different mother but we have same father had no addictions in his life (i didn''t meet him til i was 14 and we became very close right from the start) I went through life with no addictions until recently.. which i am clean now..
I smoked weed, which i gave that up in a heartbeat.. but the other was a different color of the horse i rode..Mislim da je "zavisnost" gen u našoj krvi koji se prenosi i drži bolest, kao da vreba ili čeka.. a onda se kategoriše po čemu je i širi se ili pokreće onim što izaziva zavisnost.
Ovo je ono u šta ja verujem...
Moj mlađi brat koji ima drugu majku, ali imamo istog oca, nije imao zavisnosti u životu (nisam ga upoznao do 14. godine i od samog početka smo se jako zbližili) Prošla sam kroz život bez zavisnosti do nedavno. .koji sam sada čist..
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- drpsyce38
- u Jun 19, 10, 11:06:12 PM
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Addiction CAN be genetic. And also, addiction can simply systemically mimic past family behavior.
To say there is a gambling-alcohol-drug-pornography gene has only achieved limited results insofar as diagnosis or treatment.
In other words, if your father/mother or grandfather/grandmother drank too much, there is a significant chance YOU will have a disposition to drink too much too....whether or not an identified gene is present.
Now, if you REALLY want to get complicated: How about "sober" people ,whose father was a raving drunk, getting married to a drunk! Those are tough ones to figure out.Zavisnost MOŽE biti genetska. Takođe, zavisnost može jednostavno sistemski oponašati prošlo porodično ponašanje.
Reći da postoji gen kockanje-alkohol-droga-pornografija je postigao samo ograničene rezultate u pogledu dijagnoze ili lečenja.
Drugim rečima, ako su vaš otac/majka ili deda/baka pili previše, postoji velika šansa da ćete imati sklonost da previše pijete....bez obzira da li je identifikovan gen prisutan ili ne.
E sad, ako ZAISTA želite da se iskomplikujete: Šta kažete na „trezne“ ljude, čiji je otac bio pijanac, da se venčaju sa pijanicom! To je teško shvatiti. -
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- u Jun 20, 10, 02:01:05 PM
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Problem Gambling
by Leonard J Sherrott
Everything I have is tabled
My worth awaits the spin of a wheel.
Will I suddenly see a change of luck
Or am I facing the last deal?
Stricken with a gambling addiction,
Fueled by a need to endure,
Rent's due, car's about to be taken
This fever has me on the lure.
Thirteen black , not so unlucky.... this time
I sigh, as the ball hits the slot.
A windfall of minor proportion,
A chance to take stock of my lot.
The gain, well; I've really gained nothing,
In cash terms I'm back to the start.
The coupe still facing repossession,
The landlord won't show any heart.
The loss just keeps accumulating,
My family, respect, self esteem.
The holiday we were all planning,
New car, New House, distant dream.
What excuse will I fabricate this time,
The lies are getting harder to tell
Sleep lost to a neglected conscience,
Means my job is on the line as well.
I feel so alone with this disease
Amongst friends, relatives, my wife!
This problem is slowly destroying me,
Eroding everything in my life.Problem kockanja
od Leonarda J Sherrott
Sve što imam je na stolu
Moja vrednost čeka da se okrene.
Da li ću odjednom videti promenu sreće
Ili se suočavam sa poslednjim dogovorom?
Pogođen zavisnošću od kockanja,
Podstaknut potrebom da se izdrži,
Iznajmljuje se, auto se sprema
Ova groznica me mami.
Trinaest crnih, ne tako nesrećni... ovaj put
Uzdahnem, dok lopta udara u prorez.
Neverovatni prinos malih razmera,
Šansa da pregledam svoj deo.
Dobitak, pa; Zaista ništa nisam dobio,
U gotovini, vratio sam se na početak.
Kupe se i dalje suočava sa povraćajem,
Gazda neće pokazati srce.
Gubitak se samo gomila,
Moja porodica, poštovanje, samopoštovanje.
Praznik koji smo svi planirali,
Novi auto, nova kuća, daleki san.
Kakav ću izgovor izmisliti ovoga puta,
Laži je sve teže reći
Spavanje izgubljeno zbog zanemarene savesti,
Znači i moj posao je na kocki.
Osećam se tako sam sa ovom bolešću
Među prijateljima, rođacima, mojom ženom!
Ovaj problem me polako uništava,
Erodira sve u mom životu. -
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- MommyMachine
- u Jun 20, 10, 03:01:48 PM
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Gambling addiction is one of the worst, chasing that win. It is very hard to overcome as well.
:-*Zavisnost od kockanja je jedna od najgorih, jurnjava tu pobedu. I to je veoma teško savladati.
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- u Jun 20, 10, 04:58:00 PM
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The majority of people who have addiction(s) that i have seen in all my years, there was always some kind of history in the family somewhere. I beleive we ALL carry that addiction gene, i beleive our ancestors had alot of addictions, you can be addicted or compulsive to anything on this earth, it is the one that triggers what your addiction gene will be triggered by that distinguishes which one it is..
Većina ljudi koji imaju zavisnost koje sam viđao svih mojih godina, uvek je negde postojala neka vrsta istorije u porodici. Verujem da SVI nosimo taj gen zavisnosti, verujem da su naši preci imali mnogo zavisnosti, možete biti zavisni ili kompulzivni na bilo šta na ovoj zemlji, to je onaj koji pokreće ono što će vaš gen zavisnosti pokrenuti, što razlikuje koji je to ..
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- drpsyce38
- u Jun 21, 10, 07:05:23 AM
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Imagin.........bingo! Familly history, behavior and patterns. This is why it MAY not always be genetic. Our families of origin have a very powerful effect on how we are shaped and formed as people.
For example, if Mom is super stressed out and anxious that will "spill" over into her children who will act out that stress/anxiety in some form. Genetics has nothing to do with it.
If Dad is a drunk, that behavior (which might be genetic) will spill over into his children who will act out the alcoholism in SOME way. (May be withdrawnl, may drink too, may marry a drunk, may find a compulsive distraction, etc.) And once again, a "gene" may have nothing to do with it.Zamislite.........bingo! Porodična istorija, ponašanje i obrasci. Zbog toga MOŽDA nije uvek genetski. Naše porodice porekla imaju veoma snažan uticaj na to kako smo oblikovani i formirani kao ljudi.
Na primer, ako je mama pod velikim stresom i anksioznost, to će se „preliti“ na njenu decu koja će odglumiti taj stres/anksioznost u nekom obliku. Genetika nema nikakve veze sa tim.
Ako je tata pijanac, to ponašanje (koje bi moglo biti genetsko) će se preliti na njegovu decu koja će na NEKAK način odglumiti alkoholizam. (Može biti povučen, može i piti, može se udati za pijanicu, može naći kompulzivnu distrakciju, itd.) I opet, „gen“ možda nema nikakve veze s tim. -
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- u Jun 29, 10, 03:44:58 PM
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Soopa Feen
by Del the Funky Homosapien
Soopa Feen
he used to gleam and glow
before he became a fiend for blow
Unredeemable
I seen him go
insane
straight from cocaine
graduated to no brain
He went from Polo’s to no name
pawned everythang
even his gold chain
Now his ass is dingy
and he be singeing
his lips on a glass tube
and pass on food
His ass all glued
to the seat of his pants
got cuts and hella puss on his feet and hands
Completely entranced
Give this nigga a face wipe
before he meet his commissioner base pipe
cause he said it don’t taste right
He used to cop that hop
so his face might look familiar to some
but now your boy’s plumb dumb
running around the slums
sticking out his tongue
at young females
he sees trails
he thinks they’re aliens
he starts bellin,’ in the precinct
his feet stink
they throw his ass in the clink
cuz he 5150
Listen?: http://delthefunkyhomosapien.bandcamp.com/track/soopa-feenSoopa Feen
od Del the Funki Homosapien
Soopa Feen
nekada je blistao i sijao
pre nego što je postao đavol za udar
Unreeemable
Video sam ga kako odlazi
insane
direktno od kokaina
diplomirao bez mozga
Prešao je od Pola do bez imena
založio sve
čak i njegov zlatni lanac
Sada mu je dupe prljavo
a on da peva
njegove usne na staklenoj cevi
i preneti hranu
Njegovo dupe zalepljeno
do sedišta njegovih pantalona
dobio posekotine i đavola po nogama i rukama
Potpuno oduševljen
Obrišite lice ovom crncu
pre nego što sretne svoju komesarsku baznu cev
jer je rekao da nema pravog ukusa
Nekada je hvatao taj skok
pa bi njegovo lice nekome moglo izgledati poznato
ali sada je tvoj dečak glup
trčeći po sirotinjskim četvrtima
isplazivši jezik
kod mladih ženki
vidi staze
on misli da su vanzemaljci
on počinje da lupa,' u stanici
noge mu smrde
bacaju mu dupe u zveket
jer je 5150
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- wnanhee
- u Jun 29, 10, 03:59:43 PM
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Stupid question but I have always wondered what's the difference in between crank and crack? I tried to Google but couldn't understand...id anyone know, please explain it to me? Thanks...oh, and what is meths,really? I mean you know, joint is Marijuana then what's meths? is it like cocaine?
Glupo pitanje, ali uvek sam se pitao koja je razlika između ručice i kreka? Pokušao sam na Google-u, ali nisam mogao da razumem...da li neko zna, molim te, objasni mi? Hvala... oh, a šta je meta, stvarno? Mislim, znaš, džoint je marihuana, onda šta je meta? da li je kao kokain?
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- u Jun 29, 10, 04:15:26 PM
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Crank is speed ground down like mushed pills and snorted, crack is cocaine it is sometimes cut or mixed it is made into a solid form through a cooking method for smoking, sometimes called freebasing.. meth and crank are the dirtiest form, i've seen it snorted, smoked and injected and most quickly addictive..
This is just a quick explaination, i don't know off hand the medical names or exact ingredients for them, someone might knowKrank se brzo samlje kao kašaste pilule i šmrka, krek je kokain, ponekad se iseče ili pomeša, pretvara se u čvrstu formu pomoću metode kuvanja za pušenje, koja se ponekad naziva slobodno baziranje.. met i ručica su najprljaviji oblik, ja sam video kako šmrka, puši i ubrizgava i najbrže izaziva zavisnost..
Ovo je samo kratko objašnjenje, ja ne znam medicinska imena ili tačne sastojke za njih, možda neko zna -
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- u Jun 29, 10, 05:41:36 PM
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Crank = amphetamines = speed = tweek...this is 'dirty' (but then again, 'dirty' and/ or 'clean' is totally subjective)
'Meth' is short for methamphetamines...by adding on a methyl side chain onto an amphetamine core, the Japanese were able to create a drug that has lasting effects 10x that of regular amphetamine. They gave this to their Kamakazi pilots and soldiers for those extended hours of duty.
Meth = ice = glass = crystal = shit = ish
Both crank and meth can be crushed and snorted. Both are water soluble and can be dissolved for injection. Meth usually is smoked tho.
Crack = rock cocaine = cocaine + baking soda. By heating cocaine and baking soda, it forms a rock that is then smoked. Cocaine alone burns off at far too low of a temperature and alot is wasted.
If you really want to learn more, check out www.Erowid.org...Documenting the complex relationship between humans and psychoactivesCrank = amfetamini = brzina = tveek... ovo je 'prljavo' (ali opet, 'prljavo' i/ili 'čisto' je potpuno subjektivno)
'Meth' je skraćenica za metamfetamine... dodavanjem metilnog bočnog lanca na jezgro amfetamina, Japanci su uspeli da stvore lek koji ima trajne efekte 10 puta više od običnog amfetamina. Dali su ovo svojim Kamakazi pilotima i vojnicima za te produžene sate dužnosti.
Met = led = staklo = kristal = sranje = ish
I ručica i met se mogu smrskati i ušmrkati. Oba su rastvorljiva u vodi i mogu se rastvoriti za injekcije. Meta se obično puši.
Krek = kamen kokain = kokain + soda bikarbona. Zagrevanjem kokaina i sode bikarbone formira se kamen koji se zatim puši. Sam kokain sagoreva na preniskoj temperaturi i mnogo se troši.
Ako zaista želite da saznate više, pogledajte vvv.Erovid.org...Dokumentovanje složenog odnosa između ljudi i psihoaktivnih subjekata -
- Odgovoreno
- wnanhee
- u Jun 29, 10, 08:59:15 PM
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:'( :'( :'( Ha hah...I asked my daughter a while back what meths was...I meant what's made of...and she told me, meths is everything you can make from home products...any chemicals...so I made my own conclusion, thought it was like Clorox plus laundry detergent something...that's where I got confused...
Thank you,Imagin and ishin... for taking your time and answering my question...though I am still lost...sorry I am slow...:'( :'( :'( Ha hah...Pitao sam svoju ćerku malopre šta je met...mislio sam od čega se pravi...a ona mi je rekla da je meta sve što možeš da napraviš od domaćih proizvoda. ...bilo kakve hemikalije...pa sam napravio svoj zaključak, mislio sam da je kao kloroks plus deterdžent za veš...tu sam se zbunio...
Hvala ti, Zamisli i Ishin... što si odvojio vreme i odgovorio na moje pitanje... iako sam još uvek izgubljen... izvini što sam spor... -
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- MommyMachine
- u Jul 04, 10, 02:16:25 PM
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I am Meth.
This was written by a young Indian girl who was in jail for drug charges, and was addicted to meth. She wrote this while in jail. As you will soon read, she fully grasped the horrors of the drug, as she tells in this simple, yet profound poem. She was released from jail, but, true to her story, the drug owned her. They found her dead not long after, with the needle still in her arm.
My Name: "Is Meth"
I destroy homes, I tear families apart,
I take your children, and that's just the start.
I'm more costly than diamonds, more precious than gold,
The sorrow I bring is a sight to behold.
If you need me, remember I'm easily found,
I live all around you - in schools and in town.
I live with the rich; I live with the poor,
I live down the street, and maybe next door.
I'm made in a lab, but not like you think,
I can be made under the kitchen sink.
In your child's closet, and even in the ds,
If this scares you to death, well it certainly should.
I have many names, but there's one you know best,
I'm sure you've heard of me, my name is crystal meth.
My power is awesome; try me you'll see,
But if you do, you may never break free.
Just try me once and I might let you go,
But try me twice, and I'll own your soul.
When I possess you, you'll steal and you'll lie,
You do what you have to -- just to get high.
The crimes you'll commit for my narcotic charms,
Will be worth the pleasure you'll feel in your arms.
You'll lie to your mother; you'll steal from your dad,
When you see their tears, you should feel sad.
But you'll forget your morals and how you were raised,
I'll be your conscience, I'll teach you my ways.
I take kids from parents, and parents from kids,
I turn people from God, and separate friends.
I'll take everything from you, your looks and your pride,
I'll be with you always -- right by your side.
You'll give up everything - your family, your home,
Your friends, your money, then you'll be alone.
I'll take and take, till you have nothing more to give,
When I'm finished with you, you'll be lucky to live.
If you try me be warned - this is no game,
If given the chance, I'll drive you insane.
I'll ravish your body, I'll control your mind,
I'll own you completely! , your soul will be mine.
The nightmares I'll give you while lying in bed,
The voices you'll hear, from inside your head.
The sweats, the shakes, the visions you'll see,
I want you to know, these are all gifts from me.
But then it's too late, and you'll know in your heart,
That you are mine, and we shall not part.
You'll regret that you tried me, they always do,
But you came to me, not I to you.
You knew this would happen, many times you were told,
But you challenged my power, and chose to be bold.
You could have said no, and just walked away,
If you could live that day over, now what would you say?
I'll be your master, you will be my slave,
I'll even go with you, when you go to your grave.
Now that you have met me, what will you do?
Will you try me or not? It's all up to you.
I can bring you more misery than words can tell,
Come take my hand, let me lead you to hell.
:-*Ja sam Meth.
Ovo je napisala mlada indijska devojka koja je bila u zatvoru zbog optužbi za drogu, a bila je zavisna od meta. Ovo je napisala dok je bila u zatvoru. Kao što ćete uskoro pročitati, ona je u potpunosti shvatila užase droge, kako kaže u ovoj jednostavnoj, ali dubokoj pesmi. Puštena je iz zatvora, ali je, istina, pripadala drogi. Našli su je mrtvu nedugo zatim, sa iglom u ruci.
Moje ime: "Je li meta"
Uništavam domove, razbijam porodice,
Vodim tvoju decu, i to je samo početak.
Ja sam skuplji od dijamanata, dragoceniji od zlata,
Tuga koju donosim je prizor za posmatranje.
Ako ti trebam, zapamti da me je lako pronaći,
Živim svuda oko tebe - u školama i u gradu.
Živim sa bogatima; Živim sa siromašnima,
Živim niz ulicu, a možda i pored.
Napravljen sam u laboratoriji, ali ne kao što mislite,
Mogu se napraviti ispod sudopere.
U ormaru vašeg deteta, pa čak i u ds,
Ako vas ovo nasmrt uplaši, svakako bi trebalo.
Imam mnogo imena, ali postoji jedno koje najbolje znaš,
Siguran sam da ste čuli za mene, moje ime je kristalni met.
Moja moć je strašna; probaj me videćeš,
Ali ako to uradite, možda se nikada nećete osloboditi.
Samo me probaj jednom i možda ću te pustiti,
Ali pokušajte me dvaput, i posedovaću vašu dušu.
Kad te posedujem, krašćeš i lagaćeš,
Radite ono što morate - samo da biste se naduvali.
Zločine koje ćeš počiniti za moje narkotičke čari,
Biće vredno zadovoljstva koje ćete osećati u svom naručju.
Lagaćeš svoju majku; krašćeš od svog oca,
Kada vidite njihove suze, trebalo bi da budete tužni.
Ali zaboravićeš svoj moral i kako si vaspitan,
Biću tvoja savest, naučiću te svojim putevima.
Uzimam decu od roditelja, a roditelje od dece,
Okrećem ljude od Boga, i razdvajam prijatelje.
Uzeću sve od tebe, tvoj izgled i tvoj ponos,
Biću sa tobom uvek -- pored tebe.
Odreći ćeš se svega - svoje porodice, svog doma,
Tvoji prijatelji, tvoj novac, onda ćeš biti sam.
Uzeću i uzeti, dok više nemaš šta da daš,
Kad završim sa tobom, imaćeš sreće da živiš.
Ako pokušaš da me upozoriš - ovo nije igra,
Ako mi se pruži prilika, izludiću te.
Udaraću tvoje telo, kontrolisati tvoj um,
Posedujem te u potpunosti! , tvoja duša će biti moja.
Noćne more koje ću ti dati dok ležiš u krevetu,
Glasovi koje ćete čuti, iz vaše glave.
Znoji, trese, vizije koje ćeš videti,
Želim da znaš, ovo su sve pokloni od mene.
Ali tada je prekasno, i znaćeš u svom srcu,
Da si moj i da se nećemo rastati.
Zažalićeš što si me pokušao, uvek to rade,
Ali ti si došao meni, a ne ja tebi.
Znali ste da će se ovo dogoditi, mnogo puta vam je rečeno,
Ali ti si osporio moju moć i odlučio da budeš hrabar.
Mogao si reći ne, i samo otići,
Kada biste mogli da preživite taj dan, šta biste sada rekli?
Ja ću biti tvoj gospodar, ti ćeš biti moj rob,
Čak ću ići sa tobom, kad odeš na svoj grob.
Sada kada ste me upoznali, šta ćete učiniti?
Hoćeš li me probati ili ne? Sve je na vama.
Mogu ti doneti više jada nego što reči mogu da kažu,
Dođi, uzmi me za ruku, pusti me da te odvedem u pakao.
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- Odgovoreno
- drpsyce38
- u Jul 04, 10, 03:08:47 PM
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Yep....Hill-billy heroin is bad stuff......
Wow, you can really "hear" the pain in that poem.Da....Hill-billi heroin je loša stvar......
Vau, u toj pesmi se zaista može "čuti" bol. -
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- MommyMachine
- u Jul 04, 10, 04:09:07 PM
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Yes you can hear her pain. This drug is an ugly, powerful substance...It does tear everything you have to shreds...
:-*Da, možete čuti njen bol. Ovaj lek je ružna, moćna supstanca...Radi cepa sve što morate da isečete...
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- toodleedoo
- u Jul 05, 10, 11:18:14 AM
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Amen, that poem is right on. Poor thing.
Dr- I was going to say that too, hillbilly heroin. The later effects on people who do manage to kick its habit is pretty rough. No teeth, sunken face, skin just hangs, not to mention the mental defects. I speak from firsthand experience... my mom looked like she was 67 when she passed and she was only 51.
This thread makes me sad, and sort of in awe at how common my situation was in the big picture. And that is sad. Thanks for sharing everyone.Amin, ta pesma je tačna. Jadno stvorenje.
Dr- Hteo sam i ja to da kažem, heroin. Kasniji efekti na ljude koji uspeju da odbace njegovu naviku su prilično grubi. Nema zuba, potopljeno lice, koža samo visi, a o mentalnim manama da i ne govorimo. Govorim iz iskustva iz prve ruke... moja mama je izgledala kao da ima 67 godina kada je preminula, a imala je samo 51 godinu.
Ova tema me čini tužnom i pomalo zadivljenom koliko je moja situacija uobičajena u velikoj slici. I to je tužno. Hvala svima što ste podelili. -
- Odgovoreno
- Imagin.ation
- u Jul 05, 10, 12:20:07 PM
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Oh that poem and the story behind it
Oh ta pesma i priča iza nje
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- Odgovoreno
- MommyMachine
- u Jul 05, 10, 12:42:13 PM
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Very sad Imagin :'(
Unfortunately it is many peoples reality...
:-*Veoma tužno Imagin :'(
Nažalost, to je realnost mnogih ljudi...
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- drpsyce38
- u Jul 05, 10, 02:36:22 PM
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Yep....the life of addiction is truly hell on earth.
Da....život zavisnosti je zaista pakao na zemlji.
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- Odgovoreno
- ishin
- u Jul 11, 10, 02:26:26 PM
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I am Meth.
This was written by a young Indian girl who was in jail for drug charges, and was addicted to meth. She wrote this while in jail. As you will soon read, she fully grasped the horrors of the drug, as she tells in this simple, yet profound poem. She was released from jail, but, true to her story, the drug owned her. They found her dead not long after, with the needle still in her arm.
My Name: "Is Meth"
I destroy homes, I tear families apart,
I take your children, and that's just the start.
I'm more costly than diamonds, more precious than gold,
The sorrow I bring is a sight to behold.
If you need me, remember I'm easily found,
I live all around you - in schools and in town.
I live with the rich; I live with the poor,
I live down the street, and maybe next door.
I'm made in a lab, but not like you think,
I can be made under the kitchen sink.
In your child's closet, and even in the ds,
If this scares you to death, well it certainly should.
I have many names, but there's one you know best,
I'm sure you've heard of me, my name is crystal meth.
My power is awesome; try me you'll see,
But if you do, you may never break free.
Just try me once and I might let you go,
But try me twice, and I'll own your soul.
When I possess you, you'll steal and you'll lie,
You do what you have to -- just to get high.
The crimes you'll commit for my narcotic charms,
Will be worth the pleasure you'll feel in your arms.
You'll lie to your mother; you'll steal from your dad,
When you see their tears, you should feel sad.
But you'll forget your morals and how you were raised,
I'll be your conscience, I'll teach you my ways.
I take kids from parents, and parents from kids,
I turn people from God, and separate friends.
I'll take everything from you, your looks and your pride,
I'll be with you always -- right by your side.
You'll give up everything - your family, your home,
Your friends, your money, then you'll be alone.
I'll take and take, till you have nothing more to give,
When I'm finished with you, you'll be lucky to live.
If you try me be warned - this is no game,
If given the chance, I'll drive you insane.
I'll ravish your body, I'll control your mind,
I'll own you completely! , your soul will be mine.
The nightmares I'll give you while lying in bed,
The voices you'll hear, from inside your head.
The sweats, the shakes, the visions you'll see,
I want you to know, these are all gifts from me.
But then it's too late, and you'll know in your heart,
That you are mine, and we shall not part.
You'll regret that you tried me, they always do,
But you came to me, not I to you.
You knew this would happen, many times you were told,
But you challenged my power, and chose to be bold.
You could have said no, and just walked away,
If you could live that day over, now what would you say?
I'll be your master, you will be my slave,
I'll even go with you, when you go to your grave.
Now that you have met me, what will you do?
Will you try me or not? It's all up to you.
I can bring you more misery than words can tell,
Come take my hand, let me lead you to hell.
:-*
Daaaam...this is the first poem I've read that so accurately describes the reality of meth in such a simple way for everyone to understand...dead smack truth, no sugar coating.
Mommy, any mention of this poet's name anywhere? Her name needs to be shared
Ja sam Meth.
Ovo je napisala mlada indijska devojka koja je bila u zatvoru zbog optužbi za drogu, a bila je zavisna od meta. Ovo je napisala dok je bila u zatvoru. Kao što ćete uskoro pročitati, ona je u potpunosti shvatila užase droge, kako kaže u ovoj jednostavnoj, ali dubokoj pesmi. Puštena je iz zatvora, ali je, istina, pripadala drogi. Našli su je mrtvu nedugo zatim, sa iglom u ruci.
Moje ime: "Je met"
Uništavam domove, razbijam porodice,
Vodim tvoju decu, i to je samo početak.
Ja sam skuplji od dijamanata, dragoceniji od zlata,
Tuga koju donosim je prizor za posmatranje.
Ako ti trebam, zapamti da me je lako pronaći,
Živim svuda oko tebe - u školama i u gradu.
Živim sa bogatima; Živim sa siromašnima,
Živim niz ulicu, a možda i pored.
Napravljen sam u laboratoriji, ali ne kao što mislite,
Mogu se napraviti ispod sudopere.
U ormaru vašeg deteta, pa čak i u ds,
Ako vas ovo nasmrt uplaši, svakako bi trebalo.
Imam mnogo imena, ali postoji jedno koje najbolje znaš,
Siguran sam da ste čuli za mene, moje ime je kristalni met.
Moja moć je strašna; probaj me videćeš,
Ali ako to uradite, možda se nikada nećete osloboditi.
Samo me probaj jednom i možda ću te pustiti,
Ali pokušajte me dvaput, i posedovaću vašu dušu.
Kad te posedujem, krašćeš i lagaćeš,
Radite ono što morate - samo da biste se naduvali.
Zločine koje ćeš počiniti za moje narkotičke čari,
Biće vredno zadovoljstva koje ćete osećati u svom naručju.
Lagaćeš svoju majku; krašćeš od oca,
Kada vidite njihove suze, trebalo bi da budete tužni.
Ali zaboravićeš svoj moral i kako si vaspitan,
Biću tvoja savest, naučiću te svojim putevima.
Uzimam decu od roditelja, a roditelje od dece,
Od Boga pretvaram ljude i odvajam prijatelje.
Uzeću sve od tebe, tvoj izgled i tvoj ponos,
Biću sa tobom uvek -- pored tebe.
Odreći ćeš se svega - svoje porodice, svog doma,
Tvoji prijatelji, tvoj novac, onda ćeš biti sam.
Uzeću i uzeti, dok više nemaš šta da daš,
Kad završim sa tobom, imaćeš sreće da živiš.
Ako pokušaš da me upozoriš - ovo nije igra,
Ako mi se pruži prilika, izludiću te.
Udaraću tvoje telo, kontrolisati tvoj um,
Posedujem te u potpunosti! , tvoja duša će biti moja.
Noćne more koje ću ti dati dok ležiš u krevetu,
Glasovi koje ćete čuti, iz vaše glave.
Znoji, trese, vizije koje ćeš videti,
Želim da znaš, ovo su sve pokloni od mene.
Ali tada je prekasno, i znaćeš u svom srcu,
Da si moj i da se nećemo rastati.
Zažalićeš što si me pokušao, uvek to rade,
Ali ti si došao meni, a ne ja tebi.
Znali ste da će se ovo dogoditi, mnogo puta vam je rečeno,
Ali ti si osporio moju moć i odlučio da budeš hrabar.
Mogao si reći ne, i samo otići,
Kada biste mogli da preživite taj dan, šta biste sada rekli?
Ja ću biti tvoj gospodar, ti ćeš biti moj rob,
Čak ću ići sa tobom, kad odeš na svoj grob.
Sada kada ste me upoznali, šta ćete učiniti?
Hoćeš li me probati ili ne? Sve je na vama.
Mogu ti doneti više jada nego što reči mogu da kažu,
Dođi, uzmi me za ruku, pusti me da te odvedem u pakao.
:-*
Daaaam...ovo je prva pesma koju sam pročitao koja tako precizno opisuje stvarnost meta na tako jednostavan način da svi razumeju...mrtva istina, bez šećera.
Mama, da li se negde pominje ime ovog pesnika? Njeno ime treba da se podeli -
- Odgovoreno
- kazzi
- u Jul 11, 10, 02:51:02 PM
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Very touching poem love it
But addiction for drugs is a ugly thing been there myself unfortunaly about 10years ago for a 3years period but im totally clean now wont ever touch it again seen so many bad things happen to other people.Veoma dirljiva pesma, sviđa mi se
Ali zavisnost od droge je ružna stvar, nažalost, bila sam tu, nažalost, pre 10 godina u periodu od 3 godine, ali sada sam potpuno čist, više je nikada više neću dodirnuti, jer sam video toliko loših stvari koje se dešavaju drugim ljudima. -
- Odgovoreno
- MommyMachine
- u Jul 11, 10, 03:33:19 PM
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Unfortunately there isn't a name. There has been speculation about the name, even people trying to take credit for it, that are very much alive.
The story is the girl died shortly after writing this while in jail.
Whoever wrote it is amazing. It gives me chills just reading it.
I found some stuff about it on Snopes...about the people who try to claim they wrote it, and also they are saying it's a myth that the girl who wrote this died from an overdose.
http://www.snopes.com/glurge/iammeth.asp
:-*Nažalost, nema imena. Bilo je spekulacija o imenu, čak i ljudi koji pokušavaju da pripišu zasluge za to, koji su veoma živi.
Priča je da je devojka umrla ubrzo nakon što je ovo napisala dok je bila u zatvoru.
Ko god da je to napisao je neverovatan. Naježi me samo čitanje.
Našao sam neke stvari o tome na Snopesu...o ljudima koji pokušavaju da tvrde da su to napisali, a takođe govore da je mit da je devojka koja je ovo napisala umrla od predoziranja.
http://vvv.snopes.com/glurge/iammeth.asp
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- Odgovoreno
- ishin
- u Jul 11, 10, 03:48:08 PM
- Super Hero 1240
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Yep....Hill-billy heroin is bad stuff......
Wow, you can really "hear" the pain in that poem.
cmon dr, theres no need for stereotyping and disparaging remarks here. My Hill-billy friends would take offense to "Hill-billy heroin is bad stuff."
Is Non-Hillbilly heroin good stuff? Is heroin from Afghanistan any better?
What is "Hill-billy heroin?" In this context, I assume Hill-billy heroin is Meth.
So did you mean meth manufactured by Hill-billies is bad stuff? If so, why? Are hillbillies stupid and don't know their chemistry in order to make good meth? meth is meth, its impact on humans is irrespective of race, gender, or socio-economic status.
Or, does "Hill-billy heroin" imply that hillbilly heroin addicts that cant get their heroin will opt for meth as a second choice? If so, this is not only a misnomer, but also glorifies and places heroin above meth. Heroin and meth are two different drugs with very different effects. Either way, this suggests that hillbilly meth addicts are really heroin addicts...which is obviously false. Heroin/ Meth users and their drugs can be found amongst hillbillies, just as they are in the inner city, in the suburbs, in office buildings, around the corner, at schools, in Churchs, in jails, amongst white collar professionals tucked in their briefcases, in your wife's purse, on the neighbors' kitchen counter, in your pocket.
I dont see why hillbillies, just cuz they live in remote areas, in the backwoods of the U.S., in beautiful nature, away from this concrete jungle, need to be labeled in such a negative way.
Sorry, for my little rant...I have plenty of 'hillbilly' friends and needed to speak up for them. They are all intelligent peeps, just like you and me, and have all the strengths, weaknesses, flaws, and vices like any other human.
Da....Hill-billi heroin je loša stvar......
Vau, u toj pesmi se zaista može "čuti" bol.
mon dr, ovde nema potrebe za stereotipima i omalovažavanjem. Moji Hill-billi prijatelji bi se uvredili na "Heroin Hill-billi je loša stvar."
Da li je heroin Non-Hillbilli dobra stvar? Da li je heroin iz Avganistana bolji?
Šta je "Hill-billi heroin?" U ovom kontekstu, pretpostavljam da je Hill-billi heroin Meth.
Da li ste mislili da je met koji proizvodi Hill-billies loša stvar? Ako jeste, zašto? Da li su gorštaci glupi i ne znaju svoju hemiju da bi napravili dobar met? met je met, njegov uticaj na ljude je bez obzira na rasu, pol ili socio-ekonomski status.
Ili, da li "Hill-billi heroin" implicira da će se zavisnici od heroina koji ne mogu dobiti heroin odlučiti za met kao drugi izbor? Ako je tako, ovo nije samo pogrešan naziv, već takođe veliča i stavlja heroin iznad meta. Heroin i met su dve različite droge sa veoma različitim efektima. U svakom slučaju, ovo sugeriše da su gorski zavisnici od meta zaista zavisnici od heroina... što je očigledno netačno. Korisnici heroina/meta i njihove droge mogu se naći među gorštacima, baš kao što su u centru grada, u predgrađima, u poslovnim zgradama, iza ćoška, u školama, u crkvama, u zatvorima, među profesionalcima za bele okovratnike koji su ušuškani u svoje aktovke, u torbici vaše žene, na kuhinjskom pultu kod komšija, u vašem džepu.
Ne vidim zašto gorštake, samo zato što žive u udaljenim oblastima, u zabitima SAD, u prelepoj prirodi, daleko od ove betonske džungle, treba etiketirati na tako negativan način.
Izvinite zbog mog malog zezanja...imam dosta 'brđanih' prijatelja i moram da govorim u njihovo ime. Svi su oni inteligentni pijunci, baš kao ti i ja, i imaju sve prednosti, slabosti, mane i poroke kao i svaki drugi čovek. -
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- toodleedoo
- u Jul 11, 10, 04:48:48 PM
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Ish- Hillbilly heroin is a term we use sometimes for what poor people- like my parents by their own hand of course- would use because it was more readily available and cheaper. and more dangerous. It's just a term to mean it's not the pure stuff, it's a knock off sort of. This is just a friendly way of explaining it. I know they inhaled and shot up stuff that was literally made in their friends' bathrooms or basements- and their friends were NOT rich if you get my meaning. I heard everything from formaldahyde to dish detergent was used to make some of those concoctions. And it smells awful, sadly I have waited in the car outside of many a meth house for my parents. anyhooo.... I don't think he meant 'hillbilly' as in our more rural friends.
Ish- Hillbilli heroin je izraz koji ponekad koristimo za ono što bi siromašni ljudi - kao što su moji roditelji svojim rukama, naravno - koristili jer je bio dostupniji i jeftiniji. i opasnije. To je samo izraz koji znači da to nije čista stvar, to je neka vrsta obrada. Ovo je samo prijateljski način da se to objasni. Znam da su udisali i ispalili stvari koje su bukvalno napravljene u kupatilima ili podrumima njihovih prijatelja - a njihovi prijatelji NISU bili bogati ako razumete šta mislim. Čuo sam da je sve od formaldahida do deterdženta za suđe korišćeno za pravljenje nekih od tih izmišljotina. I miriše užasno, nažalost, čekao sam u kolima ispred mnogih meta met kuća za svoje roditelje. anihooo.... Mislim da nije mislio na 'brđana' kao kod naših seoskih prijatelja.
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- drpsyce38
- u Jul 11, 10, 05:02:07 PM
- Super Hero 1493
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ish......no problem with the rant! Ranting is in good company here! Keep in mind, I heard the term "Hill-billy heroin" when I was on a mission trip in poor, rural Tennessee. The people we worked with who were hooked on that stuff gave us the term, "Hill-billy heroin." Remember, context-context-context. In some contexts the drug of choice is smack-crack-sh..t-weed-etc.
ish......nema problema sa brbljanjem! Ranting je ovde u dobrom društvu! Imajte na umu da sam čuo izraz "Hill-billi heroin" kada sam bio na misijskom putovanju u siromašnom, ruralnom Tenesiju. Ljudi sa kojima smo radili, a koji su bili navučeni na te stvari, dali su nam izraz, "Heroin iz brda". Zapamtite, kontekst-kontekst-kontekst. U nekim kontekstima lek izbora je smack-crack-sh..t-veed-itd.
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- ishin
- u Jul 11, 10, 06:59:49 PM
- Super Hero 1240
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ish......no problem with the rant! Ranting is in good company here! Keep in mind, I heard the term "Hill-billy heroin" when I was on a mission trip in poor, rural Tennessee. The people we worked with who were hooked on that stuff gave us the term, "Hill-billy heroin." Remember, context-context-context. In some contexts the drug of choice is smack-crack-sh..t-weed-etc.
Yes, context-context-context (maybe a couple more 'contexts' would help me remember)
So please clarify for me, cuz I'm missing the point.
In this context: "Hill-billy heroin is bad stuff." What does "Hill-billy heroin" suppose to mean? Whats the association between hillbillies, heroin, and/ or meth? And what does it imply or suggest about hillbillies? And because I don't know the answers to these questions, I fail to see the why you needed to use "Hill-billy or "heroin" at all when talking about meth in the context of your post.
The people we worked with who were hooked on that stuff gave us the term, "Hill-billy heroin."
How does anyone give away a term? Just because you heard this term used with people you worked with doesn't justify the use of it. Take ownership and responsibility of what comes out your mouth.
My point is: it aint cool to be spittin phrases that generalize and stereotype a certain group, especially if its not true...its disparaging.
ish......nema problema sa brbljanjem! Ranting je ovde u dobrom društvu! Imajte na umu da sam čuo izraz „Hill-billi heroin“ kada sam bio na misijskom putovanju u siromašnom, ruralnom Tenesiju. Ljudi sa kojima smo radili i koji su bili navučeni na te stvari dali su nam izraz, "Heroin iz gorskih krajeva". Zapamtite, kontekst-kontekst-kontekst. U nekim kontekstima lek izbora je smack-crack-sh..t-veed-itd.
Da, kontekst-kontekst-kontekst (možda bi mi još par 'konteksta' pomoglo da se setim)
Dakle, molim vas da mi razjasnite, jer sam promašio poentu.
U ovom kontekstu: „Heroin iz brda je loša stvar“. Šta bi trebalo da znači "Hill-billi heroin"? Kakva je veza između gorštaka, heroina i/ili meta? A šta to implicira ili sugeriše o gorštacima? I pošto ne znam odgovore na ova pitanja, ne vidim zašto ste uopšte morali da koristite " Hill-billi ili "heroin" kada govorite o meta u kontekstu vašeg posta.
Ljudi sa kojima smo radili i koji su bili navučeni na te stvari dali su nam izraz, "Heroin iz gorskih krajeva".
Kako neko poklanja termin? Samo zato što ste čuli da se ovaj izraz koristi sa ljudima sa kojima ste radili ne opravdava njegovu upotrebu. Preuzmite vlasništvo i odgovornost za ono što izlazi iz vaših usta.
Moja poenta je: nije kul biti pljuvačke fraze koje generalizuju i stereotipiziraju određenu grupu, posebno ako to nije istina... omalovažavajuće.
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