As someone pointed out in the forum, it's easy to fall into patterns amongst ourselves and friends, wherein we know our accepted level of discussed prejudices (yes, we all have them to some degree) bases on media and personal experiences. BUT, the forum isn't our private background and it wouldn't hurt to curb some thoughts and discussions before making blanket culturual statements..members come from across the globe. Just saying, publicly, here, where we're all one big LCB family, we should sometimes think before we speak and ask ourselves...are we referring to one bad apple, or the whole tree?
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Kao što je neko istakao na forumu, lako je upasti u obrasce među nama i prijateljima, pri čemu znamo naš prihvaćeni nivo predrasuda o kojima se raspravlja (da, svi ih imamo u određenoj meri) zasnovane na medijima i ličnim iskustvima. ALI, forum nije naša privatna pozadina i ne bi škodilo da obuzdamo neke misli i diskusije pre nego što damo opšte kulturološke izjave..članovi dolaze iz celog sveta. Samo da kažem, javno, ovde, gde smo svi jedna velika LCB porodica, ponekad bi trebalo da razmislimo pre nego što progovorimo i da se zapitamo...da li mislimo na jednu lošu jabuku ili celo drvo?
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- blueday
- u Jan 09, 10, 03:28:04 PM
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Hmmm - what prompted this then? I'm curious.
blueHmmm - šta je to onda podstaklo? Zanima me.
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- u Jan 09, 10, 03:35:44 PM
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Yes 13, please elaborate if you could.
PMMDa 13, molim vas da objasnite ako možete.
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it was concerning the thread wherein an RTG wasn't allowing Canadians, and some, inlcuding myself were commenting about restricted countries..and some comments weren't kindly taken, hmm, I'll look for the link
radilo se o temi u kojoj RTG nije dozvoljavao Kanađanima, a neki, uključujući i mene, su komentarisali o ograničenim zemljama..a neki komentari nisu ljubazno prihvaćeni, hmm, potražiću vezu
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- blueday
- u Jan 09, 10, 04:23:08 PM
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Ah yes - think that was the "desperate people from the US" comment.
I did remark on that saying it wasn't particularly kind as did others as I recall.
blue
Here is the link to that comment HEREAh da - mislim da je to bio komentar "očajnih ljudi iz SAD".
Na to sam primetio rekavši da nije bilo posebno ljubazno kao i drugi koliko se sećam.
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No, no, it was about if Canadians and US and others being restricted, what countries are being allowed? And it was mentioned a list of often casino restricted countries..there was also a terrorist comment. And a member was offended. So, my post, was just about how some country bashing would be seen offensive by members of those countries
Ne, ne, radilo se o tome da su Kanađani, SAD i drugi ograničeni, koje zemlje su dozvoljene? I pominjana je lista zemalja sa često ograničenim kazino..bilo je i komentar terorista. I jedan član se uvredio. Dakle, moj post je bio samo o tome kako bi neko batinanje zemlje smatralo uvredljivim od strane članova tih zemalja
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- u Jan 09, 10, 04:47:45 PM
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13.....Perhaps I should go back for (more) sensitivity training, but I'm having a tough time seeing the big offense?
But, keep in mind my own bias here. I think folks are way-too hyper sensitive in general. Though, I have not perceived you that way....the opposive actually. A bit of cynical banter might be good for the soul, huh?13.....Možda bi trebalo da se vratim na (više) trening osetljivosti, ali mi je teško da vidim veliki prekršaj?
Ali, imajte na umu moju sopstvenu pristrasnost. Mislim da su ljudi generalno previše preosetljivi. Mada, nisam te tako doživljavao.... zapravo opoziciju. Malo cinične šale bi moglo biti dobro za dušu, a? -
Me? Oh, you can say what ya want to me, lol, it takes a heck of alot to offend me, lol..I'm not sensitive in that regard much..banter away...BUT, I have to step back sometimes, and recognize not everyone is the same as me, and keep myself in check at times
ja? Oh, možeš da mi kažeš šta hoćeš, lol, mnogo je potrebno da me uvrediš, lol..nisam mnogo osetljiv u tom pogledu..zezaj se...ALI, moram ponekad da odstupim , i prepoznati da nisu svi isti kao ja, i da se ponekad držim pod kontrolom
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- blueday
- u Jan 09, 10, 04:55:26 PM
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Ah yes - think that was the "desperate people from the US" comment.
I did remark on that saying it wasn't particularly kind as did others as I recall.
blue
I think there may be some confusion here. To anyone who thinks that I said this comment....I did not. I quoted what someone else wrote and how unkind it was.
Just to clear this matter up.
blue
Ah da - mislim da je to bio komentar "očajnih ljudi iz SAD".
Na to sam primetio rekavši da nije bilo posebno ljubazno kao i drugi koliko se sećam.
Plavi
Mislim da ovde može doći do zabune. Svakom ko misli da sam rekao ovaj komentar....nisam. Citirao sam šta je neko drugi napisao i kako je to bilo neljubazno.
Samo da raščistimo ovu stvar.
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- u Jan 09, 10, 04:59:49 PM
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13 you are a very intresting individual I don't know your age but you look young,and if you are young you seem very composed and mature for youra ge. I understans about sensitivity and offense but regardless the issue I have yet to see you lose your composure and your comments are very intellegent and yet at the same time you seem like a CWAZY KINDA PARTY GUY!!
13 ti si veoma zanimljiva osoba, ne znam koliko imaš godina, ali izgledaš mlado, a ako si mlad, deluješ veoma staloženo i zrelo za svoju starost. Razumem u vezi sa osetljivošću i uvredom, ali bez obzira na problem koji tek treba da vidim, gubite prisebnost i vaši komentari su veoma inteligentni, a ipak u isto vreme delujete kao CVAZI KINDA PARTI GUI!!
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lol, nice save...but we know ya better than that blue
lol, lepo spasavanje...ali znamo te bolje od te plave
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- u Jan 09, 10, 05:02:48 PM
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Not a "save" - I just wanted to make it clear that it wasn't me who said that. I can't find the original post but it was very rude about US gamblers and I thought that was the remark that you were referring to.
blueNe "spasavanje" - samo sam želeo da bude jasno da to nisam rekao ja. Ne mogu da pronađem originalni post, ali je bio veoma nepristojan prema američkim kockarima i mislio sam da je to primedba na koju ste mislili.
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- u Jan 09, 10, 05:03:19 PM
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this is so funny....not funny Ha Ha but funny coincidental..On another chat forum there was yet another confusion of comments and meanings just minutes ago before I came here. The argument lasted seconds and the apologies took an hour!
! The moderator said a similar thing as Blue said. She said Can We Move on Please! !ovo je tako smešno.... nije smešno Ha Ha, ali smešno slučajno.. Na drugom forumu za ćaskanje došlo je do još jedne zabune komentara i značenja pre samo nekoliko minuta pre nego što sam došao ovde. Svađa je trajala nekoliko sekundi, a izvinjenja sat vremena!
! Moderator je rekao nešto slično kao i Blue. Rekla je: Možemo li dalje, molim te! ! -
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- u Jan 09, 10, 05:04:34 PM
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OMG how embarrassing I didn't use Spell Check to compliment 13!
OMG kako je neprijatno što nisam upotrebio proveru pravopisa da bih pohvalio 13!
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nah..was just a post I saw earlier where someone got offended. Not saying either party was right or wrong, overly-sensitive or insensitive, just how comments are perceived
Spell check? I just blame drunken typing or keyboard malfunction for all errors, lolnah..bio je samo post koji sam ranije video gde se neko uvredio. Ne kaže se da je bilo koja strana bila u pravu ili ne, preosetljiva ili neosetljiva, samo kako se percipiraju komentari
Provera pravopisa? Samo krivim pijano kucanje ili neispravnost tastature za sve greške, lol -
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Blue i know which comment you are referring to, and we all know you would never ever do such a thing, that you only quoted someone else.
The quoted comment was rude and insulting but not only to U.S. players but also to anyone who is nuts.. like me...
Lol.. though i get over those things quickly, and realize sometimes people don't always mean things as they type, and know the language barrier can cause alot of confusion and alot can be misunderstood.. but.. yes sometimes people can be very insensitive
Plavi Znam na koji komentar mislite, a svi znamo da nikada ne biste uradili tako nešto, da ste samo citirali nekog drugog.
Citirani komentar je bio nepristojan i uvredljiv, ali ne samo za igrače iz SAD već i za sve koji su ludi.. kao ja...
Lol.. iako brzo prelazim preko tih stvari, i shvatam da ponekad ljudi ne misle uvek stvari dok kucaju, i znaju da jezička barijera može da izazove veliku konfuziju i da mnogo toga može biti pogrešno shvaćeno.. ali.. da, ponekad ljudi mogu biti veoma neosetljiv -
lol, thanks claylord...but im older than i look
lol, hvala Clailord...ali sam stariji nego što izgledam
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- u Jan 09, 10, 06:04:57 PM
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13oclock This is a warning to you !
Seem you enjoy stirring the pot. Now You accused Blue for doing something she obviously didnt and yet you continue to play innocent party here. And by your own admission u r amused by all this.
Well newsfalsh to you....Im NOT. And I wont tolerate it !
This is not your first time you pull something like this and then offer group hugs etc.
This is a gambling forum, and theres NO room for trouble makers!
You have been warned!
Zuga13 sati Ovo je upozorenje za vas!
Izgleda da uživate u mešanju lonca. Sada si optužio Blue da je uradila nešto što očigledno nije, a ti ipak nastavljaš da igraš nevinu zabavu ovde. I po sopstvenom priznanju, sve ovo vas zabavlja.
Pa vest za tebe.... NISAM. I ja to neću tolerisati!
Ovo nije vaš prvi put da povučete nešto ovako, a zatim ponudite grupne zagrljaje itd.
Ovo je forum za kockanje i nema mesta za one koji stvaraju probleme!
Upozoreni ste!
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excuse me? Reread the posts. I NEVER accused blue of ANYTHING, and i find that VERY offensive. If that is your impression of me. Thanks the same. but if an apology isn't forthcoming, you can have the forum
Izvinite? Ponovo pročitajte postove. NIKAD nisam optužio plavog ni za šta, i smatram da je to VEOMA uvredljivo. Ako je to tvoj utisak o meni. Hvala isto. ali ako izvinjenje ne stigne, možete imati forum
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lol, nice save...but we know ya better than that blue
Actually you DID
Now you have been warned! If you dont like it well, thats your problem.
Enuff said !
lol, lepo spasavanje...ali znamo te bolje od te plave
U stvari JESTE
Sada ste upozoreni! Ako vam se ne sviđa, to je vaš problem.
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- Tinmanfan
- u Jan 09, 10, 06:29:08 PM
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lol, nice save...but we know ya better than that blue
Actually you DID
Now you have been warned! If you dont like it well, thats your problem.
Enuff said !
Zuga, I don't mean 2 jump in2 something that is none of my business, but it seems 2 me that 13 was making a funny...... he winked after the post, which 2 me indicates he was just playin' around.....
just my thought on the subject.......
lol, lepo spasavanje...ali znamo te bolje od te plave
U stvari JESTE
Sada ste upozoreni! Ako vam se ne sviđa, to je vaš problem.
Enuff je rekao!
Zuga, ne mislim 2 uskoči u2 nešto što se mene ne tiče, ali čini mi se da je 13 bio smešan...... namignuo je posle posta, što 2 meni ukazuje da se samo igrao oko.....
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this is where semantics come into play and that you dont not know me well enough.
Blue was preceived by SOMEONE else...STAFF, not ME as thinking it was a quote from her. Ask her! See the chatroom. She corrected her post so THAT pseron didn't misunderstand . Thus...nice save..like, 'nice catch'''she caught the perceived error..had ZERO to do with me..Ask blue who misunderstood her, it's posted in her inbox and the chat. MY comment..'we know you better than that' is exactly THAT..We/I know her betther than that that she WOULD not make an offensive comment. I know her better than that, to know she makes POSTIVE comments..i hae ALWAYS suported blue and staff heretu dolazi do izražaja semantika i da me ne poznajete dovoljno dobro.
Plavu je prednjačio NEKO DRUGI... OSOBLJE, a ne JA jer je mislio da je to njen citat. Pitajte je! Pogledajte sobu za ćaskanje. Ispravila je svoj post da TAJ pseron nije pogrešno razumeo. Tako...lepo sačuvaj..kao, 'lep ulov'''uhvatila je uočenu grešku..imala NULU veze sa mnom..Pitaj plavu ko ju je pogrešno razumeo, to je objavljeno u njenom sandučetu i ćaskanju. MOJ komentar..'znamo te bolje od toga' je upravo TO..Mi/ja je poznajemo bolje od toga da ona ne bi dala uvredljiv komentar. Znam je bolje od toga, da znam da daje POZITIVNE komentare..Uvek sam podržavao plavu i osoblje ovde -
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- zuga
- u Jan 09, 10, 06:38:14 PM
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Sorry but i DONT buy it! This is not the first time you stir a pot.
As I said Im not amused. You also laffed at one of the posts refering to Iran, Pakistan and N Korea (they were put in the bad context ), and now you speak about sensitivity.
Who would they do like to business with - North Corea, Iran, Pakistan?
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lmfao
You just have been warned. I'm not going to close your account.
ZugaŽao mi je, ali NE kupujem! Ovo nije prvi put da mešate lonac.
Kao što sam rekao, nije mi zabavno. Nasmejali ste se i na jedan od postova koji se odnosi na Iran, Pakistan i Severnu Koreju (stavljeni su u loš kontekst), a sada govorite o osetljivosti.
Sa kim bi želeli da posluju - Severnom Korejom, Iranom, Pakistanom?
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lmfao
Upravo ste upozoreni. Neću da vam zatvorim nalog.
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lol, nice save...but we know ya better than that blue
Actually you DID
Now you have been warned! If you dont like it well, thats your problem.
Enuff said !
Zuga, I don't mean 2 jump in2 something that is none of my business, but it seems 2 me that 13 was making a funny...... he winked after the post, which 2 me indicates he was just playin' around.....
just my thought on the subject.......
Tinmanfan... you do not play around with the staff on any forum in that manner, or go near it, they are to always be respected Period
lol, lepo spasavanje...ali znamo te bolje od te plave
U stvari JESTE
Sada ste upozoreni! Ako vam se ne sviđa, to je vaš problem.
Enuff je rekao!
Zuga, ne mislim 2 uskoči u2 nešto što se mene ne tiče, ali čini mi se da je 13 bio smešan...... namignuo je posle posta, što 2 meni ukazuje da se samo igrao oko.....
samo moje mišljenje na tu temu........
Tinmanfan... ne igraš se na taj način sa osobljem ni na jednom forumu, niti mu prilaziš, oni se uvek poštuju Period -
yes, I did laugh..hence the post..I even said i myself was in it, and I too need to step back and look at my own posts, and I myself need to think before posts about things being perceived as insulting. I made the post BECAUSE in part I was no better than anyone else there and because someone felt insulted. I stood up to it..i stood up to my part and I wrote a post how we should all realize how our actions were/are perceived but thank you for the link, it was the one blue was looking for, how it wasn't about her.
Buy it or not, all I can do is say as it is. I would have thought my contributions would have outweighed this one situation, wherein AGAIN, I am not, nor was I insulting blue..I'm fond of her and her duties here and her work.
Regardless, if this is how I am perceived, I am saddened. But live and learn. If it's my bad so be it.
I DO still regardless wish staff and members here well. I will miss themda, smejao sam se..otuda i post..čak sam rekao da sam i sam bio u njemu, i ja takođe moram da se odmaknem i pogledam svoje postove, i ja lično moram da razmislim pre postova o tome da se stvari doživljavaju kao uvredljive. Napisao sam post ZATO što delimično nisam bio ništa bolji od bilo koga drugog i zato što se neko osećao uvređenim. Ja sam se suprotstavio..ostao sam na svom mestu i napisao sam post kako svi treba da shvatimo kako se doživljavaju/se vide naše akcije, ali hvala na linku, to je bio onaj koga je plavi tražio, kako je bilo' t o njoj.
Kupio ili ne, sve što mogu da uradim je da kažem kako jeste. Mislio sam da bi moj doprinos nadmašio ovu jedinu situaciju, u kojoj OPET nisam, niti sam vređao plavo..Sviđa mi se ona i njene dužnosti ovde i njen rad.
Bez obzira na to, ako me tako doživljavaju, tužan sam. Ali živi i uči. Ako je moje loše, neka bude.
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- u Jan 18, 10, 12:41:40 PM
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oh,now i see why 13 requested to have his account removed
oh, sada vidim zašto je 13 tražio da se njegov nalog ukloni
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Zuga
I've just read thru this topic , and i would have to say you seem to be way out of line with 13 . jumping in to defend blue when it wasn't even necessary did you even talk to blue before doing it or even after .
now i could be wrong but if so I'd apologize . but would youZuga
Upravo sam pročitao ovu temu i morao bih da kažem da se činite da niste u skladu sa 13 . uskačući u odbranu plavog kada to nije bilo potrebno da li ste uopšte razgovarali sa plavim pre nego što ste to uradili ili čak posle .
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- u Jan 18, 10, 01:36:38 PM
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listen bigjay36 , who are you to ask me to apologize?? The only person out of line here is you
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about here. 13 enjoyed to stir the pot ( one more than one occasion )... he would provoke and then pull back and enjoy the mess he created... Also the way he addressed Blue is NO way to address a Moderator! That's something I dont tolerate!
He has been warned for that. I never made him leave , that was his decision. Anyways, I don't have to justify my actions to you or to any1 else. I run this forum the way I think its best.
Don't like it, that's your problem. So in future before accusing me for being "out of line" get your facts straight !
Zugaslušaj bigjai36 , ko si ti da tražiš od mene da se izvinim?? Jedina osoba ovde van reda si ti
Vi očigledno nemate pojma o čemu pričate ovde. 13 je uživao u mešanju lonca (više jednom)... provocirao bi, a zatim se povukao i uživao u neredu koji je napravio... Takođe način na koji se obratio Plavom NIJE način da se obrati moderatoru! To je nešto što ne tolerišem!
Zbog toga je upozoren. Nikada ga nisam naterao da ode, to je bila njegova odluka. U svakom slučaju, ne moram da opravdavam svoje postupke ni vama ni bilo kom drugom. Vodim ovaj forum onako kako mislim da je najbolji.
Ne sviđa mi se, to je tvoj problem. Zato ubuduće pre nego što me optužite da sam "preterao", razjasnite svoje činjenice!
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- u Jan 18, 10, 01:51:25 PM
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hey man you didn't read my post careful enough . cause i clearly said "now i could be wrong but if so I'd apologize" but dude it seems clear your very sensitive and it really doesn't matter so i want say anything else
hej čoveče nisi dovoljno pažljivo pročitao moj post. jer sam jasno rekao "sada bih mogao da grešim, ali ako je tako, izvinio bih se", ali čovječe, čini se jasno da si vrlo osjetljiv i to zaista nije važno, pa želim da kažem bilo šta drugo
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- dwyeack
- u Jan 18, 10, 01:56:00 PM
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it looks like it's starting again...everyone count to 10...10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1... feel better?
izgleda da počinje ponovo...svi brojite do 10...10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1... osećate se bolje?
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- Lipstick
- u Jan 18, 10, 01:58:32 PM
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Hi Bigjay,
I think where part of the confusion is your making a judgement call by this one post. Unfortunately there is more to it than this. I don't think it would be on a professional level to disclose all the reasons.
13 was warned and was never asked to leave. He was a valuable member in many respects to the forum and was admired by many. We all hope he will reconsider and come back. Only time will tell....
Handing out warnings are not something that is done without giving a lot of thought first. As i have stated before this is a large site with a lot of traffic day to day. Considering that, the warnings are far and inbetween.
It's done not only for LCB's protection but protection for it's members as well. Zuga works very hard to keep the site as smooth as possible. With that said, sometimes he can be the fall under scrutiny in cirrumstances that are just not fair.
I hope this brings a bit of more understanding........
LipsZdravo Bigjai,
Mislim da je deo zabune u vašem donošenju presude ovim jednim postom. Nažalost, ima više od ovoga. Mislim da ne bi bilo na profesionalnom nivou iznositi sve razloge.
13 je bio upozoren i nikada nije zamoljen da ode. Bio je vredan član foruma u mnogim aspektima i mnogi su mu se divili. Svi se nadamo da će razmisliti i vratiti se. Samo će vreme pokazati....
Deljenje upozorenja nije nešto što se radi bez prethodnog razmišljanja. Kao što sam ranije rekao, ovo je velika lokacija sa velikim prometom iz dana u dan. S obzirom na to, upozorenja su daleka i između.
To se radi ne samo radi zaštite LCB-a, već i zbog zaštite njegovih članova. Zuga radi veoma naporno da bi sajt bio što glatkiji. Uz to, ponekad on može biti pod lupom u okolnostima koje jednostavno nisu fer.
Nadam se da ovo donosi malo više razumevanja........
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- u Jan 18, 10, 02:00:23 PM
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bigjay36,
Im Admin or Zuga, not a "man" or "dude" . So please show some respect b4 you address me again.
And did I read your post careful enough to know you dont have all the facts.
Again get your facts straight before you post.
bigjai36,
Ja sam Admin ili Zuga, a ne "čovek" ili "čoveče". Zato vas molim da pokažite malo poštovanja b4 ponovo mi se obratite.
I da li sam dovoljno pažljivo pročitao tvoj post da znam da nemaš sve činjenice.
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- blueday
- u Jan 18, 10, 02:00:59 PM
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Maybe it's time for this topic to be locked and it to be buried.
Its just raking over old ground. Your decision Zuga and thank you for all your support.
blueMožda je vreme da se ova tema zaključa i zakopa.
Samo grabulja po starom terenu. Tvoja odluka Zuga i hvala ti za svu podršku.
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