Haiti....Vaša mišljenja.....?

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  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    It has been a very tragic event over there. Between the earthquake, and the aftershocks.
    My heart was saddened when this occured, and sure, I was proud we (the USA) came to help- as we always do.
    But when is enough?
    Do you guys think we have gone above & beyond? Or do you think we should continue to help?

    Personally, I think we should slow it down. I see something wrong with the fact that we can give them an extreme amount of monetary donations, food, water, medical supplies, and offer hands-on help ....yet....there are millions of Americans in our own country sufferring. Why can't we reach out to our own country?  sad

    Tamo je bio veoma tragičan događaj. Između zemljotresa i naknadnih potresa.
    Moje srce je bilo tužno kada se to dogodilo, i naravno, bio sam ponosan što smo (SAD) došli da pomognemo - kao što uvek radimo.
    Ali kada je dovoljno?
    Da li mislite da smo otišli iznad i dalje? Ili mislite da treba da nastavimo da pomažemo?

    Lično, mislim da bi to trebalo da usporimo. Vidim da nešto nije u redu sa činjenicom da im možemo dati ekstremnu količinu novčanih donacija, hrane, vode, medicinskih potrepština i ponuditi praktičnu pomoć ....ipak....ima milione Amerikanaca u našoj zemlji patnja. Zašto ne možemo da dopremo do sopstvene zemlje? sad

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    My personal opinon, they need us.. and we should be there, when i see those pictures, the news and video clips, the people of haiti suffering, the children, the elders, those families with absolutely nothing.. america is no where near that in suffering, so spoiled i am as an american, i myself could never handle the amount of suffering and devastation they are in.. for now put our troubles behind us, come together.. this could be our wake-up call

    Moje lično mišljenje, mi smo im potrebni.. i mi treba da budemo tu, kada vidim te slike, vesti i video klipove, ljude na Haitiju koji pate, decu, starije, te porodice bez ičega.. amerike nema gde blizu toga u patnji, toliko sam razmažen kao amerikanac, ja nikada ne bih mogao da podnesem količinu patnje i razaranja u kojoj se nalaze.. za sada ostavite naše nevolje iza nas, okupite se.. ovo bi mogao biti naš poziv za buđenje

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Haiti was almost just as much of a hole prior to the earthquake. To a certain degree it has been a blessing in disguise for them because they are finally getting the help they've needed for decades.

    My mom on the other hand is "all haitied out". She questions if there really is a god. She wonders why its always these poor areas that get mass devestation and if god truly existed how could he let this happen.

    Haiti je bio skoro ista rupa pre zemljotresa. U određenoj meri to je za njih bio prikriveni blagoslov jer su konačno dobili pomoć koja im je bila potrebna decenijama.

    S druge strane, moja mama je "svaka napolju". Ona se pita da li zaista postoji bog. Ona se pita zašto ta siromašna područja uvek dobijaju masovna razaranja i ako je bog zaista postojao kako je mogao da dozvoli da se to dogodi.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    To those who wonder about why this all happend, then consult the book of Job in the bible.


    Anyway, the rebuilding of Haiti will take alot of time, the sad part is that a new group asked a bunch of people if they're going to stay to help rebuilding.

    They started chanting "USA" "USA!" In other words, they'd rather come here (Which is not bad in a way) mainly as life here is obviously better then Haiti. Their is obviously NO PRIDE for their country, or a willingness to help rebuild what could be a glorious rebirth.

    That is what saddens me the most.

    Za one koji se pitaju zašto se sve ovo dogodilo, onda pogledajte knjigu o Jovu u Bibliji.


    U svakom slučaju, obnova Haitija će potrajati, a tužno je što je nova grupa pitala gomilu ljudi da li će ostati da pomognu u obnovi.

    Počeli su da skandiraju "SAD" "SAD!" Drugim rečima, radije bi došli ovde (što na neki način nije loše) uglavnom zato što je život ovde očigledno bolji od Haitija. Oni očigledno nisu PONOS za svoju zemlju, ili spremnost da pomognu u obnovi onoga što bi moglo biti slavno ponovno rođenje.

    To je ono što me najviše rastužuje.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Yeah, blaming God for man's injustice is quite a stretch.

    Da, okrivljavanje Boga za čovekovu nepravdu je prilično nategnuto.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    I think we should continue helping, they are in need, desperate need, I shall continue to help all I can, but my little help is nothing compared to what they need, but I am doing the best I can do right now.  God Bless Haiti!

    Mislim da treba da nastavimo da pomažemo, oni su u potrebi, očajnički, ja ću nastaviti da pomažem koliko mogu, ali moja mala pomoć nije ništa u poređenju sa onim što im je potrebno, ali ja radim najbolje što mogu da uradim trenutno. Bog blagoslovio Haiti!

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    I'm with you on the "continue helping" front but my concern is that the BBC reported that trucks are turning around with all the supplies on board and not delivering them for reasons unknown.

    It's chaos over there and people are still being found alive albeit they had something like a drink and food - depending on where they were when it hit.

    The people are sifting through the rubble of known shops or food halls looking for food. 

    Why is all the help that has been sent from all over the world not there?  Why are people still starving to death and food trucks being turned away?

    blue

    Uz vas sam na frontu „nastavite da pomažete“, ali me brine to što je BBC izvestio da se kamioni okreću sa svim zalihama na brodu i da ih ne isporučuju iz nepoznatih razloga.

    Tamo je haos i ljudi se i dalje nalaze živi, iako su popili nešto poput pića i hrane - u zavisnosti od toga gde su bili kada je udario.

    Narod prebira po ruševinama poznatih prodavnica ili prehrambenih hala u potrazi za hranom.

    Zašto nema sve pomoći koja je poslata iz celog sveta? Zašto ljudi i dalje umiru od gladi, a kamioni sa hranom se odbijaju?

    Plavi

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    blue...its a logistical nightmare.  They don't have decent roads and the airport is small.  The Haitians have poor internal infastructure, hence, it will take longer to get food and supplies inland.

    plava...to je logistička noćna mora. Nemaju pristojne puteve, a aerodrom je mali. Haićani imaju lošu unutrašnju infrastrukturu, pa će im trebati više vremena da dođu do hrane i zaliha u unutrašnjost.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    blue...its a logistical nightmare.  They don't have decent roads and the airport is small.  The Haitians have poor internal infastructure, hence, it will take longer to get food and supplies inland.


    I understand that ......so why were the trucks turning round without dropping off their goods for the people?

    blue

    plava...to je logistička noćna mora. Nemaju pristojne puteve, a aerodrom je mali. Haićani imaju lošu unutrašnju infrastrukturu, pa će im trebati više vremena da dođu do hrane i zaliha u unutrašnjost.


    Ja to razumem ......pa zašto su se kamioni okretali a da nisu ispustili robu za ljude?

    Plavi
  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    The Haitians are receiving help, it is a small island this is true, America's Most Wanted moderator is scheduled to become this week, he is hiring 200 social workers to help with the children, kudoes to him.  The world has showed an outpouring of love and yes the trucks have been turned away, mistakes have been made, this is a lesson for all.  I live in California, originally from the City of Compton, California, and I remember when we had an strong earthquake and had to stay home from school, it was scary, but noone died and noone was buried under the rubble that I can remember.  I was just thinking how blessed I was then and how blessed I am now.  I remember the little things that I am blessed with today, little to some but much to others; food on my table, my own business at home; my two cadillacs, my husband, my two dogs, my health, and my strength, my willlingness to sacrifice and help others despite being tired, I am thankful to God for waking up this morning and some didnt.  God Bless Haiti, and her people, God is still in the miracle making business and I pray they will overcome.  America the Beautiful has shown its beauty in helping the people of Haiti during this crisis, despite the problems here, they have been beautiful!

    Haićani dobijaju pomoć, to je malo ostrvo, istina je, americki Most Vanted moderator bi trebalo da postane ove nedelje, angažuje 200 socijalnih radnika da pomognu sa decom, svaka mu čast. Svet je pokazao izliv ljubavi i da, kamioni su odbijeni, greške su napravljene, ovo je lekcija za sve. Živim u Kaliforniji, poreklom iz grada Komptona u Kaliforniji, i sećam se kada smo imali jak zemljotres i morali smo da ostanemo kod kuće iz škole, bilo je strašno, ali niko nije umro i niko nije bio zatrpan ispod ruševina kojih se sećam. Razmišljao sam samo kako sam tada bio blagosloven i koliko sam blagosloven sada. Sećam se malih stvari kojima sam danas blagosloven, nekima malo, a drugima mnogo; hrana na mom stolu, moj posao kod kuće; moja dva kadiluka, moj muž, moja dva psa, moje zdravlje i moja snaga, moja spremnost da se žrtvujem i pomognem drugima uprkos umoru, zahvalna sam Bogu što sam se jutros probudila, a neki nisu. Bože blagoslovi Haiti i njen narod, Bog je još uvek u poslu koji pravi čuda i molim se da ih prevaziđu. Lepa Amerika je pokazala svoju lepotu pomažući ljudima na Haitiju tokom ove krize, uprkos problemima ovde, oni su bili prelepi!

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    It has been a very tragic event over there. Between the earthquake, and the aftershocks.
    My heart was saddened when this occured, and sure, I was proud we (the USA) came to help- as we always do.
    But when is enough?
    Do you guys think we have gone above & beyond? Or do you think we should continue to help?

    Personally, I think we should slow it down. I see something wrong with the fact that we can give them an extreme amount of monetary donations, food, water, medical supplies, and offer hands-on help ....yet....there are millions of Americans in our own country sufferring. Why can't we reach out to our own country?  sad


    I think Americans as a whole, are very generous people when tragedy strikes.  We all seem to join in and help in disasterous situations, without a problem.  Its the one on one we need a little help with...

    Tamo je bio veoma tragičan događaj. Između zemljotresa i naknadnih potresa.
    Moje srce je bilo tužno kada se to dogodilo, i naravno, bio sam ponosan što smo (SAD) došli da pomognemo - kao što uvek radimo.
    Ali kada je dovoljno?
    Da li mislite da smo otišli iznad i dalje? Ili mislite da treba da nastavimo da pomažemo?

    Lično, mislim da bi to trebalo da usporimo. Vidim da nešto nije u redu sa činjenicom da im možemo dati ekstremnu količinu novčanih donacija, hrane, vode, medicinskih potrepština i ponuditi praktičnu pomoć ....ipak....ima milione Amerikanaca u našoj zemlji patnja. Zašto ne možemo da dopremo do sopstvene zemlje? sad


    Mislim da su Amerikanci u celini veoma velikodušni ljudi kada se dogodi tragedija. Čini se da se svi pridružujemo i pomažemo u katastrofalnim situacijama, bez problema. To je jedan na jedan, potrebna nam je mala pomoć oko...
  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Blue, I don't know the full reason for turning them around, but I have heard (Isolated cases) of trucks being hijacked. One was of medical supplies only doctors and nurses could know how to use.

    Not knocking the people, desperation will cause anyone to do things they normally wouldn't. It will take time and yes, more will die, but from what I have seen of the roads and such it's not going to be starting to settle for months I'd guess.

    Plavo, ne znam potpuni razlog zašto ih okrećem, ali sam čuo (izolovani slučajevi) da su kamioni oteli. Jedan je bio medicinskih potrepština koje su samo lekari i medicinske sestre mogli da koriste.

    Ne obarajući ljude, očaj će naterati svakoga da radi stvari koje inače ne bi. Biće potrebno vremena i da, više će umreti, ali prema onome što sam video o putevima i takvima, pretpostavljam da neće početi da se slegne mesecima.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    They [BBC] have estimated 10 years to get back to where they were originally.  That seems a very very long time but as things are at the moment, I can well believe it.

    blue

    Oni [BBC] procenjuju 10 godina da se vrate tamo gde su bili prvobitno. Čini se da je to jako dugo, ali kako stvari stoje u ovom trenutku, mogu dobro da verujem.

    Plavi

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    I was recently in New Orleans...and they are still recovering from Katrina.....sadly, it takes a long, long time.

    Nedavno sam bio u Nju Orleansu...i oni se još uvek oporavljaju od Katrine.....nažalost, potrebno je mnogo, dugo vremena.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski


    I think Americans as a whole, are very generous people when tragedy strikes.  We all seem to join in and help in disasterous situations, without a problem.  Its the one on one we need a little help with...
    Nal,

    I do agree with you that Americans are a very generous people when tragedy strikes.

    I think one thing that does bother me is our country is the first to be looked at and scrutinized in times of crisis. I have read quotes in moments like this...."where is the US"........aren't they going to help"???

    Should there be doubt? When as a whole we are very very "generous". I think once in awhile we deserve a pat on the back in moments of crisis because we are ALWAYS there.

    acgofer,

    I understand your concern given the devastation our country is in. It can be worrisome considering our National debt. I have to admit, it crossed my mind as well. But what i really had to think about was though there is poverty here......nothing compares to the magnitude of crisis in Haiti. Because of this it is the only righteous thing for us to do.

    Sometimes i can be so hard on our good ole USA with my opinions, but for me the reality check here is .....i'm proud of how we are known to come to the aid of other countries in need and we are among the first to help out.

    Lips


    Mislim da su Amerikanci u celini veoma velikodušni ljudi kada se dogodi tragedija. Čini se da se svi pridružujemo i pomažemo u katastrofalnim situacijama, bez problema. To je jedan na jedan, potrebna nam je mala pomoć oko...
    Nal,

    Slažem se sa vama da su Amerikanci veoma velikodušan narod kada se dogodi tragedija.

    Mislim da jedna stvar koja me muči je to što je naša zemlja prva koja se posmatra i ispituje u vremenima krize. Čitao sam citate u ovakvim trenucima..."gde su SAD"........zar neće pomoći"???

    Treba li sumnjati? Kada smo kao celina veoma veoma „velikodušni”. Mislim da s vremena na vreme zaslužujemo tapšanje po leđima u trenucima krize jer smo UVEK tu.

    acgofer,

    Razumem vašu zabrinutost s obzirom na devastaciju u kojoj se nalazi naša zemlja. To može biti zabrinjavajuće s obzirom na naš državni dug. Moram priznati, i meni je palo na pamet. Ali ono o čemu sam zaista morao da razmišljam je da ovde postoji siromaštvo...... ništa se ne može porediti sa veličinom krize na Haitiju. Zbog toga je to jedina pravedna stvar za nas.

    Ponekad mogu biti tako strog prema našoj dobroj SAD sa svojim mišljenjima, ali za mene je provera stvarnosti ovde .....ponosan sam na to kako smo poznati da priteknemo u pomoć drugim zemljama u nevolji i mi smo među prvima koji su pomogli.

    Usne
  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    It is very very sad!  I do feel for them, especially the children.  
     

    I am glad for HOPE for Haiti and everyone that is donating their own money to help out.  That is great!  I guess it is hard for me to understand how/why can the USA send any country $100M when we have a TRILLION dollar deficit.

    To je veoma tužno! Osećam ih, posebno decu.


    Drago mi je zbog NADE za Haiti i svih koji doniraju svoj novac da pomognu. To je odlično! Pretpostavljam da mi je teško da razumem kako/zašto SAD mogu da pošalju bilo kojoj zemlji 100 miliona dolara kada imamo deficit od TRILIONA dolara.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Most people don't know how Haiti was "born", well a long time ago when slavers were shipping kidnapped Africans to the colonies,they made the mistake of picking the wrong group of people, people who would rather die than becoming a slave, so they fought, and fought fiercely and without a care who died, to the point where the slavers realized they had a real situation on hand, so instead of taking these high spirited fighters to the colonies or even carribean islands farther north, they were advised to take the, to an island which was much farther south away from everything, until they could be "broken" enough to ensure they would be docile enough to enslave. The Africans would not be broken and continued to rebel and fight, until after a major coup, the slavers decided it was best to just abandon them on move on,so they are really a displaced people who have been struggling ever since,I am not Haitian, but I am a human who has a lot of compassion for all underdogs, and people who have been broken and beaten down for no reason other than someone elses greed, the Aborigines are indiginous people and most are in poverty, Hawaiins (real Hawaiins) usually cant' afford homes in Hawaii, some are homeless, there were millions of Native Americans, now just thousands, and they have a lot of problems with alcoholism, etc. I'm done with my ranting, but one last thing, I would rather keep helping people who are starvng anywhere in the world than send money to dogs and cats, and I do love animals too. I'm just saying

    Većina ljudi ne zna kako je Haiti "rođen", davno, kada su robovi otpremali kidnapovane Afrikance u kolonije, napravili su grešku odabirom pogrešne grupe ljudi, ljudi koji bi radije umrli nego postali robovi, tako da su se borili, i borili se žestoko i bez brige o tome ko je umro, do tačke kada su robovlasnici shvatili da imaju stvarnu situaciju pri ruci, pa su umesto da odvedu ove živahne borce u kolonije ili čak na karipska ostrva dalje na sever, savetovani da ih odvedu, na ostrvo koje je bilo mnogo južnije od svega, sve dok ne budu mogli biti dovoljno „slomljeni“ da bi se osiguralo da će biti dovoljno poslušni da porobe. Afrikanci nisu bili slomljeni i nastavili su da se bune i bore, sve dok nakon velikog udara robovlasnici nisu odlučili da je najbolje da ih napuste i krenu dalje, tako da su oni stvarno raseljeni narod koji se od tada bori, ja nisam Haićanin, ali ja sam čovek koji ima mnogo saosećanja za sve autsajdere, i ljude koji su slomljeni i pobijeni bez razloga osim tuđe pohlepe, Aboridžini su autohtoni ljudi i većina je u siromaštvu, Havaji (pravi Havaji ) obično ne mogu da priušte domove na Havajima, neki su beskućnici, bilo je miliona Indijanaca, sada samo hiljade, i imaju mnogo problema sa alkoholizmom, itd. radije bih nastavio da pomažem ljudima koji gladuju bilo gde u svetu nego da šaljem novac psima i mačkama, a volim i životinje. samo kažem

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    I agree with u 100% about helping some1 who is starving instead of animals. 

    Slažem se sa tobom 100% oko pomoći nekome1 ko gladuje umesto životinjama.

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