Hiya Guys and Dolls,
In todays society we have become very cautious as to not offend other people and there beliefs. For example some public establishments will not incorporate anything that has to do with the holiday season. No decorations, no happy holidays to customers or any reference to Christmas period.
The reason for this is to respect others who may be of another religion. Others reasons may be that for some the season is a sad one and they no longer celebrate do to loss of a loved one. Other people may have given up the celebrating the season all together due to financial struggle.
Whatever the reason may be do you believe that all public places should not decorate or allow employees to make reference to Christmas?
On side of the coin i think that for the most part people who do wish others Happy Holidays are doing so with warmth and not trying to make a religious stance. On the other hand if a person is not of that faith they make take offense.
Do you think our society is being too sensitive with making reference to the holidays or are we not sensitive enough.
Lips
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- Lipstick
- u Dec 02, 10, 01:34:58 PM
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Prevod 
Prevedeno sa 
Zdravo momci i lutke,
U današnjem društvu postali smo veoma oprezni da ne uvredimo druge ljude i njihova uverenja. Na primer, neke javne ustanove neće uključiti ništa što ima veze sa sezonom praznika. Bez ukrasa, bez srećnih praznika kupcima ili bilo kakvog spominjanja božićnog perioda.
Razlog za to je poštovanje drugih koji su možda druge religije. Drugi razlozi mogu biti da je za neke sezona tužna i da više ne slave gubitak voljene osobe. Drugi ljudi su možda svi zajedno odustali od proslave sezone zbog finansijske borbe.
Šta god da je razlog da li verujete da sva javna mesta ne bi trebalo da ukrašavaju ili dozvoljavaju zaposlenima da pominju Božić?
Sa strane medalje, mislim da uglavnom ljudi koji žele drugima srećne praznike to rade sa toplinom i ne pokušavaju da zauzmu religiozni stav. S druge strane, ako osoba nije te vere, ona se vređa.
Mislite li da je naše društvo previše osetljivo kada se poziva na praznike ili mi nismo dovoljno osetljivi.
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- drpsyce38
- u Dec 02, 10, 06:09:32 PM
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Lips....I'll take a shot at your (wonderful) question.
I think over-playing "happy holidays/ season's greetings" for fear someone might be offended is being hyper-sensitive. The fact is that Christmas is a religious holiday to many Americans. I am certainly not offended if someone wishes me "blessed Ramadan."
On the other hand, I think fundamentalist Christians need to realize there are people in America who don't practice Christianity. There ARE Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc. in our country. Also, there are people who are secularists who are simply excising their Constitutional rights not to practice a religion. So, DON'T fall apart if you bump into someone who isn't like you!!! This is where sensitivity is needed.
In short, I believe diversity should be celebrated. If you are a Hindu, for example, I would love to take you to lunch and learn about your faith. And at the same time I would like to wish people "Merry Christmas" without a snobby lecture on tolerance!Usne.... Probaću na tvoje (divno) pitanje.
Mislim da preterano igranje „srećnih praznika/čestita za sezonu“ iz straha da bi se neko mogao uvrediti je preosetljivo. Činjenica je da je Božić za mnoge Amerikance verski praznik. Sigurno se ne vređam ako mi neko poželi „blagosloven Ramazan“.
S druge strane, mislim da fundamentalistički hrišćani moraju da shvate da u Americi postoje ljudi koji ne praktikuju hrišćanstvo. U našoj zemlji IMA Muslimana, Jevreja, Indusa itd. Takođe, postoje ljudi koji su sekularisti koji jednostavno ukidaju svoja ustavna prava da ne praktikuju religiju. Zato, NEMOJTE SE raspasti ako naletite na nekoga ko nije kao vi!!! Ovde je potrebna osetljivost.
Ukratko, verujem da različitost treba da se slavi. Ako ste, na primer, hinduista, voleo bih da vas odvedem na ručak i naučim o vašoj veri. A ujedno bih poželeo ljudima „Srećan Božić“ bez snobovskog predavanja o toleranciji! -
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- chillymellow
- u Dec 02, 10, 06:26:00 PM
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I don't know how everything got so screwed up, not only with Christmas. It was all so simple growing up, having Christmas spirit. I guess the athiests and the terrorists have driven us to nostalgia instead of cheer. Can't pray in school, can't have God in the Pledge of Allegiance to our flag, etc... I guess our grandparents felt the same way about the times of their youth, compared to when we were little. So much changes.
The following isn't a Christmas song- are we allowed to sing those anymore? But it does make you think of the way we were:
Mmm. Mmm.
Memories, light the corners of my mind
Misty watercolor memories of the way we were.
Scattered pictures of the smiles we left behind
smiles we give to one another
for the way we were.
Can it be that it was all so simple then
or has time rewritten every line?
If we had the chance to do it all again
tell me would we? Could we?
Memories, may be beautiful and yet
what's too painful to remember
we simply choose to forget
So it's the laughter we will remember
whenever we remember
the way we were.
Hopefully I've not offended anyone...Merry Christmas.Ne znam kako se sve tako zeznulo, ne samo sa Božićem. Sve je bilo tako jednostavno odrastati, imati božićni duh. Pretpostavljam da su nas ateisti i teroristi oterali u nostalgiju umesto u navijanje. Ne mogu da se mole u školi, ne mogu da imaju Boga u zakletvi odanosti našoj zastavi, itd... Pretpostavljam da su naši dedovi i bake isto osećali u vreme svoje mladosti, u poređenju sa onim kada smo bili mali. Toliko promena.
Sledeće nije božićna pesma – smemo li ih više pevati? Ali to vas tera da razmišljate o tome kakvi smo bili:
Mmm. Mmm.
Sećanja, osvetli uglove mog uma
Maglovita akvarelna sećanja na to kakvi smo bili.
Razbacane slike osmeha koje smo ostavili za sobom
osmehe dajemo jedni drugima
za onakvi kakvi smo bili.
Može li biti da je tada sve bilo tako jednostavno
ili je vreme prepisalo svaki red?
Kad bismo imali priliku da sve ponovimo
reci mi hoćemo li? Da li bismo mogli?
Uspomene, možda su lepe, ali ipak
ono što je previše bolno da se setim
jednostavno biramo da zaboravimo
Dakle, to je smeh koji ćemo pamtiti
koga god se setimo
kakvi smo.
Nadam se da nisam nikoga uvredio...Srećan Božić. -
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- Lipstick
- u Dec 02, 10, 06:43:55 PM
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Both fabulous replies.....thanks for expressing yourselves so eloquently!
LipsOba fantastična odgovora.....hvala što ste se tako elokventno izrazili!
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- debo2759
- u Dec 03, 10, 06:22:24 AM
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I think that when most people mean "Merry Christmas" what most people are saying is "Happy Holidays." I think that most people mean no offense and wish everyone a happy one!
Mislim da kada većina ljudi misli „Srećan Božić“, većina ljudi kaže „Srećni praznici“. Mislim da većina ljudi ne misli bez uvrede i želi svima srećno!
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- chillymellow
- u Dec 03, 10, 09:50:41 AM
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When I say Merry Christmas! I mean I wish we could all be full of happy happy joy joy all year long, peace on earth! Goodwill towards all men!
I know it's a fantasy these days. I know Jesus wasn't born Dec. 25th.
Heck, people still say "bless you" when someone sneezes (I don't and people act like I'm evil or something). It's just a tradition.
I just saw that the atheists have put up huge billboards about how it's NOT REAL, to compete with the Catholics' billboards saying IT IS REAL. I don't mind their debate, but I hate that they are ruining the magic and joy and peace and tradition.Kad kažem srećan Božić! Mislim, voleo bih da svi možemo da budemo puni srećne, srećne radosti, radosti tokom cele godine, mir na zemlji! Dobra volja prema svim muškarcima!
Znam da je to fantazija ovih dana. Znam da Isus nije rođen 25. decembra.
Dođavola, ljudi i dalje kažu „Blago tebi“ kada neko kija (ja ne, a ljudi se ponašaju kao da sam zao ili nešto slično). To je samo tradicija.
Upravo sam video da su ateisti postavili ogromne bilborde o tome kako to NIJE STVARNO, da se takmiče sa bilbordima katolika na kojima piše TO JE STVARNO. Ne smeta mi njihova debata, ali mrzim što uništavaju magiju i radost, mir i tradiciju. -
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- Lipstick
- u Dec 03, 10, 11:54:50 AM
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The thing is even "happy holidays" can be insensitive to say because some people don't recognize it at all.
But the way i feel about it is that it's just warm wishes with no other intent. Maybe we should say Happy December?
Stvar je u tome što čak i „srećni praznici“ može biti neosetljivo reći jer ga neki ljudi uopšte ne prepoznaju.
Ali način na koji ja mislim o tome je da su to samo tople želje bez druge namere. Možda bi trebalo da kažemo srećan decembar?
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