Kako se kaže "Izvini"?

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  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    When you have hurt someone, said something you never meant to say, infact what you said was the exact opposite of the truth, but were in a moment of great hurt, and pain, just not yourself.. and slashed out mean words..how do you say i'm sorry and take away the pain you have caused, and be forgiven?

    And what do you do when you have said you are, done everything you can to make them see, but the person you care so much for won't forgive you, the damage you caused just keeps haunting them..

    Is "i'm sorry" ever enough to make them see you didn't mean it, do you feel an apology from someone is enough or do you feel they should burn in hell for hurting you so badly?

    What does it really take for a person to understand they didn't mean it, they love you and would take back what they said, and rather die then to hurt you?

    What are you thoughts on someone who does not forgive?

    Kada ste nekoga povredili, rekli nešto što nikada niste nameravali da kažete, u stvari, ono što ste rekli bilo je potpuno suprotno od istine, ali ste bili u trenutku velike povrede i bola, samo ne sebe.. i izrezali rđave reči.. kako se kaže da mi je žao i da uklonim bol koji si naneo, i da mi bude oprošteno?

    I šta radite kada kažete da ste, učinili sve što možete da ih naterate da vide, ali osoba do koje vam je toliko stalo to vam neće oprostiti, šteta koju ste naneli samo ih proganja...

    Da li je "žao mi je" ikada dovoljno da ih natera da vide da nisi to mislio, da li osećaš da je neko izvinjenje dovoljno ili misliš da treba da gori u paklu jer te je tako jako povredio?

    Šta je zaista potrebno da čovek shvati da nije mislio to, da te voli i da bi povukao ono što je rekao, i radije umrlo da te povredi?

    Šta mislite o nekome ko ne prašta?

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Lord knows I have said things to someone out of anger and hurt. I really wish I didn't say the things I did. I really feel like if that person you hurt knows you, then they know you meant no harm..You were just angry. Maybe some people just can't forgive.

    I feel like without forgiveness, I would have a heavy heart. I wouldn't be able to move on from certain things, and I couldn't enjoy my life. I have always forgiven anyone who has hurt me, even the person that took my father away. I don't forget though.

    Forgiveness is a powerful thing, not just for the person you are forgiving, but for your soul as well.

    Just my 3 cents.



    :-*

    Gospod zna da sam nekome rekao stvari iz ljutnje i povrede. Zaista bih voleo da nisam rekao stvari koje sam uradio. Stvarno se osećam kao da te osoba koju si povredio poznaje, onda zna da nisi mislio ništa loše.. Samo si bio ljut. Možda neki ljudi jednostavno ne mogu da oproste.

    Osećam se kao da bih bez oprosta imao teško srce. Ne bih mogao da odmaknem od određenih stvari, i nisam mogao da uživam u životu. Uvek sam opraštao svakome ko me je povredio, čak i osobi koja je odvela mog oca. Ipak ne zaboravljam.

    Opraštanje je moćna stvar, ne samo za osobu kojoj opraštate, već i za vašu dušu.

    Samo moja 3 centa.



    :-*

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski


    I feel like without forgiveness, I would have a heavy heart. I wouldn't be able to move on from certain things, and I couldn't enjoy my life. I have always forgiven anyone who has hurt me, even the person that took my father away. I don't forget though.

    Forgiveness is a powerful thing, not just for the person you are forgiving, but for your soul as well.

    Just my 3 cents.



    :-*


    Those are perfect words.. a "heavy heart" you'll have without forgiveness..

    I sometimes think if you don't forgive, that you'll end up in the same shoes as the unforgiven.. that feeling

    The sincerity in a person is very valuable, it is worth more then the act of what the person did in the beginning.
    Sometimes it seems people don't care for that anymore..


    Osećam se kao da bih bez oprosta imao teško srce. Ne bih mogao da odmaknem od određenih stvari, i nisam mogao da uživam u životu. Uvek sam opraštao svakome ko me je povredio, čak i osobi koja je odvela mog oca. Ipak ne zaboravljam.

    Opraštanje je moćna stvar, ne samo za osobu kojoj opraštate, već i za vašu dušu.

    Samo moja 3 centa.



    :-*


    To su savršene reči.. "teško srce" imaćeš bez praštanja..

    Ponekad pomislim, ako ne oprostiš, da ćeš završiti u istim cipelama kao i neoprošteni.. taj osećaj

    Iskrenost u čoveku je veoma vredna, vredi više od čina onoga što je osoba uradila na početku.
    Ponekad se čini da ljudima to više nije stalo..
  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    I always just apologize.  Straight out, no drama like, no heat of the moment, I wait till it calms down and I say I'm sorry.  I provide a reason if I can, but I just apologize.  

    You know what I wish for more than anything?  That my mom would have said she was sorry just once.  Just once, for anything.  And not in one her self defeating rants, I mean just on a normal day sat down, looked at things and said, you know what?  I was wrong, and I"m sorry.  Instead she punished herself with denial, and maybe even fear that I wouldn't forgive her ever.  In fact, we got into one fight where she said 'I've apologized but you won't let it go', when in fact, she never apologized.  She just didn't want to deal with the hurt that she caused.  So when I cause hurt, and I realize I did it, I try to make amends.  If they don't want to accept it right away, that's their perogative, but I bet in time they will.  All we can do is our part, and if we own up to the part we played it will be as it's supposed to.  I have even apologized for minute stuff to people that hurt me way more, just to open the door of communication and forgiveness, but sometimes they aren't ready.  I think sometimes, dealing with a little bit of forgiveness means they have to acknowledge a whole lot more of it, and let go of that protective wall.  I wish people would apologize to me, instead my family is of the denial capacity.  Deny deny deny, then hurt before they get hurt first.  It's so exhausting.  I have done my part, now it's up to them.  I think my illness scared the crap out of them, made them think about their own mortality.  If the youngest of their pack almost died, and on top of it she started actually talking about real things... well what does that do for them lol.  It hurts, but there is nothing I can do for them if they won't even acknowledge themselves.  Don't beat yourself up Imagin, all we can do is what we can do, and you are a good person, and they will forgive you in time.  

    Uvek se samo izvinjavam. Iskreno, bez drame, bez žara trenutka, čekam da se smiri i kažem da mi je žao. Dajem razlog ako mogu, ali samo se izvinjavam.

    Znaš šta želim više od svega? Da bi moja mama samo jednom rekla da joj je žao. Samo jednom, za bilo šta. I to ne u jednom samoporažavajućem govoru, mislim samo normalnog dana sela, pogledala stvari i rekla, znaš šta? Pogrešio sam i žao mi je. Umesto toga, kaznila je sebe poricanjem, a možda čak i strahom da joj nikada neću oprostiti. U stvari, ušli smo u jednu svađu gde je ona rekla 'izvinila sam se, ali ti hoćeš' t pusti to', a zapravo se nikada nije izvinila. Ona jednostavno nije htela da se nosi sa povredom koju je nanela. Dakle, kada ja nanesem povredu, a shvatim da sam to uradio, pokušavam da se iskupim. Ako oni ne žele da to odmah prihvate, to je njihov perogativ, ali se kladim da će vremenom da hoće. Sve što možemo da uradimo je naš deo, i ako priznamo ulogu koju smo odigrali, biće kako treba. čak sam se izvinio za sitne stvari ljudima koje su me mnogo više povredile, samo da otvorim vrata komunikacije i opraštanja, ali ponekad nisu spremni. Mislim da ponekad, suočavanje sa malo oproštaja znači da moraju da priznaju puno toga više toga, i pusti taj zaštitni zid. Voleo bih da mi se ljudi izvine, umesto toga, moja porodica je u mogućnosti da poriče. To je tako iscrpljujuće. Uradio sam svoj deo posla, sada je na njima. Mislim da ih je moja bolest uplašila, naterala ih da razmišljaju o sopstvenoj smrtnosti. Ako je najmlađi iz njihovog čopora zamalo umro, a povrh toga je počela da priča o stvarnim stvarima... pa šta im to znači lol. Boli, ali ne mogu ništa da učinim za njih ako neće ni sebe da priznaju. Nemojte se tući Zamislite, sve što možemo da uradimo je ono što možemo, a ti si dobar čovek i vremenom će ti oprostiti.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski
    Tood one word for you Bravo!

    Saying your sorry can be one of the most difficult things for some people to say. For me actions speak louder than words. If someone shows remorse for their actions then i can forgive without the actual words being said.

    Sometimes i think i can forgive to a fault. I always try to understand why people do and say the things they do. If i can get a grip on it and understand why they have done me wrong i can cope with it. I think it takes a great deal of understanding and soul searching on the person who needs to forgive in a situation that is very serious.

    I am not sure if the answer lies in forgiving or understanding why it happened to begin with. If you can't justify a person actions no matter how hard you try then i think its when forgiveness is tough to do.

    You said it well imagin when you say....."When you have hurt someone, said something you never meant to say, infact what you said was the exact opposite of the truth, but were in a moment of great hurt, and pain, just not yourself.. and slashed out mean words"  The key is you were in your own pain and hurt and isn't that the reason we hurt other people anyway?

    I hope who ever it is that you need forgiveness from you have told them just what i quoted from you. To me that is understanding why you said what you said. Forgiveness should come easy.

    You have a wonderful gift of expressing yourself, use that gift and i think anyone will forgive you.

    Lips
    Jednu reč za tebe Bravo!

    Izvinjenje može biti jedna od najtežih stvari za neke ljude. Za mene dela govore više od reči. Ako neko pokaže kajanje za svoje postupke, onda mogu da oprostim bez izgovorenih reči.

    Ponekad mislim da mogu oprostiti grešku. Uvek pokušavam da razumem zašto ljudi rade i govore ono što rade. Ako mogu da se uhvatim u koštac sa tim i razumem zašto su mi pogrešili, mogu da se nosim sa tim. Mislim da je potrebno mnogo razumevanja i traganja za dušom osobe koja treba da oprosti u situaciji koja je veoma ozbiljna.

    Nisam siguran da li odgovor leži u opraštanju ili razumevanju zašto se to dogodilo na početku. Ako ne možete da opravdate postupke neke osobe koliko god se trudili, onda mislim da je teško oprostiti.

    Dobro ste rekli, zamislite kada kažete... „Kada ste nekoga povredili, rekli nešto što nikada niste nameravali da kažete, u stvari ono što ste rekli je potpuno suprotno od istine, ali ste bili u trenutku velike povrede i bol, samo ne sebe.. i isekao zle reči" Ključ je u tome da si bio u svom bolu i povređen i zar to nije razlog zašto povređujemo druge ljude?

    Nadam se da je ko god da vam treba oproštaj rekao upravo ono što sam citirao od vas. Za mene je to razumevanje zašto ste rekli to što ste rekli. Opraštanje bi trebalo da dođe lako.

    Imate divan dar izražavanja, iskoristite taj dar i mislim da će vam svako oprostiti.

    Usne

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