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Original Prevod Prevedeno saHiya Guys and Dolls,
I had a horrible experience with my bank where i have my mortgage. As usual like every month went to pay my monthly mortgage online. What wasn't usual was that when i tried to log in i got a message that told me "Your Account is Closed". I didn't panic too much because i thought that's impossible. Maybe they are updating website and i will go on the next day to pay it. For two days i got the same message.
Now i am a bit panicked so i call the number on the website. Of course i get an automated service asking me all my personal information. The auto says "Your Account is Closed" and transfers me to live help. Ok, now i am really getting nervous! The live help comes on and again i have to give her all my information and she says i need to transfer you to another department. She transfers the call and the call is dropped!
I call the main number this time, go through all the automated questions again and once again it says "your account is closed" By now i'm shaking as 1000's thoughts are going through my head like did someone confiscate my home loan and tamper with it or identity theft??
I finally get to the live help again and ask her what is going on with my account? Seems that investors have the right to buy loans from the bank with absolutely no say it in from the customers.
My mortgage is now under a new bank i have never heard of, no local office to go to and is only on the East Coast. I have to set up a new account online and all my information from my original bank no longer applies.
I would like to know how the Government allows banks to do this. This was a bank there was carefully chosen to hold the mortgage on my house and for what? It can be taken away from you and farmed off to any bank that wants to buy it.
Has this ever happened to you and do you think it should be allowed?
LipsZdravo momci i lutke,
Imao sam užasno iskustvo sa svojom bankom u kojoj imam hipoteku. Kao i obično, svaki mesec je otišao da platim svoju mesečnu hipoteku putem interneta. Ono što nije bilo uobičajeno je da kada sam pokušao da se prijavim dobio sam poruku koja mi je rekla "Vaš nalog je zatvoren". Nisam previše paničarila jer sam mislila da je to nemoguće. Možda ažuriraju veb lokaciju i ja ću sutradan otići da platim. Dva dana dobijam istu poruku.
Sada sam malo uspaničen pa sam nazvao broj na veb stranici. Naravno, dobijam automatizovanu uslugu koja me pita sve moje lične podatke. Auto kaže „Vaš nalog je zatvoren“ i prebacuje me na pomoć uživo. Ok, sad sam stvarno nervozan! Uključuje se pomoć uživo i opet moram da joj dam sve svoje podatke, a ona kaže da moram da te prebacim na drugo odeljenje. Prebacuje poziv i poziv je prekinut!
Ovaj put zovem glavni broj, ponovo prođem kroz sva automatizovana pitanja i još jednom piše "vaš račun je zatvoren" Do sada se tresem dok mi se 1000 misli motaju po glavi kao da mi je neko zaplenio stambeni kredit i manipulisao to ili krađa identiteta??
Konačno ponovo dolazim do pomoći uživo i pitam je šta se dešava sa mojim nalogom? Čini se da investitori imaju pravo da kupuju kredite od banke, a da se apsolutno ne izjašnjavaju od kupaca.
Moja hipoteka je sada pod novom bankom za koju nikad nisam čuo, nema lokalne kancelarije u koju bih mogao da odem i nalazi se samo na istočnoj obali. Moram da otvorim novi nalog na mreži i sve moje informacije iz moje prvobitne banke više ne važe.
Voleo bih da znam kako Vlada dozvoljava bankama da to rade. Ovo je bila banka tamo pažljivo odabrana da drži hipoteku na mojoj kući i za šta? Može vam se oduzeti i predati bilo kojoj banci koja želi da ga kupi.
Da li vam se ovo ikada desilo i da li mislite da to treba dozvoliti?
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- gunnylab
- u Nov 22, 11, 02:24:28 PM
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Lips, my mother worked for a mortgage company 25 years ago. She was responsible for calling on people who were late with their payments. In her last 5 years there the huge group of mortgages she was responsible for were sold to other mortgage companies 4 times. When the last place bought those mortgages her office was closed. The government has nothing to do with it. Its corporate America. This happening to u is more common than u think. The only way to have a chance that your morgage will stay at the same place is to have it at a national bank and pray they dont get bought out by another bank. Now that this has happened to u once dont be shocked in the future it will happen again.
Lips, moja majka je radila za hipotekarnu kompaniju pre 25 godina. Ona je bila odgovorna za pozivanje ljudi koji su kasnili sa isplatama. Tokom njenih poslednjih 5 godina, ogromna grupa hipoteka za koje je bila odgovorna prodata je drugim hipotekarnim kompanijama 4 puta. Kada je poslednje mesto kupilo te hipoteke, njena kancelarija je bila zatvorena. Vlada nema ništa s tim. Njena korporativna Amerika. Ovo vam se dešava češće nego što mislite. Jedini način da imate šansu da vaša hipoteka ostane na istom mestu je da je imate u nacionalnoj banci i molite se da ih druga banka ne otkupi. Sada kada vam se ovo jednom desilo, nemojte biti šokirani u budućnosti, ponoviće se.
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I don't understand why banks do this and how do they profit by selling your loan. Seems to me they would actually lose because they are not getting your interest over the next 20 years.
I did ask why i was the lucky one chose for by this bank and she said there is no criteria with who they choose. They simply pick a "lot" of loans and buy them.
It would be a bit more tolerable if i at least heard of this new bank. The bank i was at is known throughout the nation.
Thanks for your input gunny.
and ps welcome back.
LipsNe razumem zašto banke to rade i kako profitiraju prodajom vašeg kredita. Čini mi se da bi zapravo izgubili jer ne dobijaju vaše kamate u narednih 20 godina.
Pitao sam zašto sam baš mene odabrala ova banka, a ona je rekla da nema kriterijuma za koga biraju. Oni jednostavno biraju „puno“ kredita i kupuju ih.
Bilo bi malo podnošljivije da sam bar čuo za ovu novu banku. Banka u kojoj sam bio poznata je širom nacije.
Hvala na doprinosu gunni.
i ps dobrodošli nazad.
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- u Nov 22, 11, 03:58:15 PM
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Lips,
This is standard practice. Rarely now does a bank or mortgage company keep a loan more then 120 days. This selling of loans is called "bundling" and is one of the causes of the crash in the US. When good credit scores were required loans would stay "in-house" but when the FEDS forced them to except lower credit scores the banks began to bundle them with both good and bad credit and selling a group of loans to investors.
Thats the brief summary..... although you should have been notified of the sale. I have had mortgages change 3 times in one year. but that was then.Usne,
Ovo je standardna praksa. Retko koja banka ili hipotekarna kompanija sada drži kredit duže od 120 dana. Ova prodaja kredita se naziva "pakiranje" i jedan je od uzroka kraha u SAD. Kada su bili potrebni dobri kreditni rezultati, zajmovi bi ostajali „u kući“, ali kada ih je FEDS primorao da izuzmu niže kreditne rezultate, banke su počele da ih povezuju sa dobrim i lošim kreditima i prodaju grupu kredita investitorima.
To je kratak rezime..... iako ste trebali biti obavešteni o prodaji. Promenio sam hipoteke 3 puta u jednoj godini. ali to je bilo tada. -
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My mortgage company has changed banks many times.
They should have notified you instead of sending you in a panic.Moja hipotekarna kompanija je mnogo puta menjala banku.
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What a scary time that must have been for you Lips. I would have been panic stricken like you were.
I've never heard of mortgages being sold (unless a bank is folding). I have heard of debts (but not mortgages) being sold on. I think it's very wrong that they didn't at least send you a letter confirming the position.
Glad it's all resolved now.
blueKako je to strašno vreme za tebe, Lips. Ja bih bio u panici kao i ti.
Nikada nisam čuo da se hipoteke prodaju (osim ako se banka ne raspisuje). Čuo sam da se dugovi (ali ne i hipoteke) prodaju. Mislim da je veoma pogrešno što vam bar nisu poslali pismo u kojem su potvrdili stav.
Drago mi je da je sada sve rešeno.
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You've probably got some mail to go through lips. Mortgage was not my area but your bank would've disclosed the possibility of selling your loan when you closed on the mortgage. That is required and why you don't have a choice in the matter now. They should also send you a letter "X" amount of days before your loan is sold and the new bank should send you a letter "X" amount of days after they've acquired it. If you're really mad you can report them if you haven't received these notices.
It's common and may not be the last time it happens. I think the bank benefits by keeping the portion of the loan processing fee that they tack on to your APR. Pain in the butt, I know. I am so irritated by fine print. Does anyone read every aspect of a contract?Verovatno imate neku poštu da prođete kroz usne. Hipoteka nije bila moja oblast, ali vaša banka bi otkrila mogućnost prodaje vašeg kredita kada ste zatvorili hipoteku. To je neophodno i zašto sada nemate izbora po tom pitanju. Takođe bi trebalo da vam pošalju slovo "Ks" u iznosu od dana pre nego što vaš kredit bude prodat, a nova banka treba da vam pošalje slovo "Ks" u iznosu od dana nakon što su ga dobili. Ako ste zaista ljuti, možete ih prijaviti ako niste primili ova obaveštenja.
To je uobičajeno i možda nije poslednji put da se to dešava. Mislim da banka ima koristi od toga što zadrži deo naknade za obradu kredita koji prikači na vaš APR. Bol u guzi, znam. Tako sam iritiran sitnim slovima. Da li neko čita svaki aspekt ugovora? -
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I don't think this kind of practice should be allowed, or if it is they could at least give the customer a heads up like a month in advance or something.
It would be nice if the customers would be allowed to do this too: like I'd go to the bank and tell them something like "sorry lads, I'm not paying you anymore because I gave my contract to that bum you see across the street. Good luck getting your money from him ".Mislim da ovakva praksa ne bi trebalo da bude dozvoljena, ili ako jeste, oni bi barem mogli da obaveste kupca mesec dana unapred ili tako nešto.
Bilo bi lepo kada bi se i klijentima dozvolilo da to urade: kao da bih otišao u banku i rekao im nešto poput „izvinite momci, više vam ne plaćam jer sam dao ugovor onoj klošaru koju vidite preko puta Srećno da dobiješ novac od njega „. -
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There is a servicing disclosure that is provided when you apply for a loan. It tells you about their right to transfer the servicing of your loan and also that you would be notified in advance when that happens. 76 - 100% of all mortgage loans are transferred during the term of the loan.
The government is so protective of the buyers that we have to give that disclosure with about *30* others to the buyer to sign at the time of the application. Less than 1% will remember what they signed. That's the government for you, trying to make things clearer and instead making it more confusing.
The bigger the bank, more often it does happen and sometimes they don't play by the rules. That is what is wrong with the system today. Nobody fights them and so they get away with everything.Postoji obaveštenje o servisiranju koje se daje kada se prijavite za kredit. To vam govori o njihovom pravu da prenesu servisiranje vašeg kredita i takođe da ćete biti unapred obavešteni kada se to dogodi. 76 - 100% svih hipotekarnih kredita se prenosi tokom trajanja kredita.
Vlada je toliko zaštitnički nastrojena prema kupcima da moramo da damo tu informaciju sa oko *30* drugih kupcu da potpiše u vreme prijave. Manje od 1% će zapamtiti šta su potpisali. To je vlada za vas, koja pokušava da razjasni stvari i umesto toga ih čini još zbunjujućim.
Što je banka veća, to se češće dešava i ponekad ne igraju po pravilima. To je ono što danas nije u redu sa sistemom. Niko se s njima ne bori i tako im se sve izvlači. -
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Lips I am going to try and answer 2 of your questions from above about how u dont know how they profit selling your loan & not getting the interest over the next 20 years. Sorry, I dont know how to use the quote tab. Before your mortgage was sold the bank or company made a fortune off u. A simple way to see this is for u to go back in time and find how much your loan was for, the interest rate and the length of the loan. Search online for a site where u can print an amotization schedule. I am going to use a $500 mortgage payment for principal and interest only. The actual payment might be higher 4 insurance and real estate taxes. The 1st mortgage payment was roughly for $500 is broken down to $497 for interest and $3 for principal. The next payment might be $496.80 interest and $3.20 for pricipal and so on and so on. The 1st year of that mortgage u probably paid 98% interest and 2% pricipal. I dont have thhe actual numbers but after 10 years u might have paid pulling a number out of my rear end 50% of your total interest. Over the next 20 years on a 30 year loan u may pay the other 50% interest. If the total intest for 30 years is $200,000 your original mortgage company made $100,000 off of you and your new mortage company will make $100,000 off u. One in 10 years the other in 20. The new place buying your mortgage might pay a premium to the old place for $20,000 or it can go the other way. All the 2 companies are doing is spliting up the $200,000 profit on your interest. I hope this made some sense to u.
Usne Pokušaću da odgovorim na 2 vaša pitanja odozgo o tome kako ne znate kako oni profitiraju prodajom vašeg kredita i ne dobijaju kamatu u narednih 20 godina. Žao mi je, ne znam kako da koristim karticu citata. Pre nego što je vaša hipoteka prodata banka ili kompanija su zaradili bogatstvo na vama. Jednostavan način da to vidite je da se vratite u prošlost i saznate koliko je iznosio vaš kredit, kamatu i dužinu kredita. Potražite na mreži veb lokaciju na kojoj možete odštampati raspored amortizacije. Iskoristiću hipoteku od 500 dolara samo za glavnicu i kamatu. Stvarna uplata može biti veća 4 poreza na osiguranje i nekretnine. Prva isplata hipoteke iznosila je otprilike 500 dolara, a podeljena je na 497 dolara za kamatu i 3 dolara za glavnicu. Sledeća uplata može biti 496,80 dolara kamata i 3,20 dolara za glavnicu i tako dalje i tako dalje. U prvoj godini te hipoteke verovatno ste platili 98% kamate i 2% glavnice. Nemam stvarne brojeve, ali nakon 10 godina možda biste platili izvlačenje broja iz mog zadnjeg dela 50% vaše ukupne kamate. U narednih 20 godina na kredit od 30 godina možete platiti ostalih 50% kamate. Ako je ukupna kamata za 30 godina 200.000 dolara, vaša originalna hipotekarna kompanija je zaradila 100.000 dolara od vas, a vaša nova hipotekarna kompanija će zaraditi 100.000 dolara od vas. Jedno za 10 godina, drugo za 20. Novo mesto koje kupuje vašu hipoteku može platiti premiju u odnosu na staro mesto za 20.000 dolara ili može ići drugim putem. Sve što 2 kompanije rade je da dele 200.000 dolara profita na vaš interes. Nadam se da vam je ovo imalo smisla.
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It just seems like such a shady practice from these banks. You search for the best interest rates and best accredited banks only to have them shipped off to some joe blow bank that is never heard of.
It's like a violation and they are putting your home on the line and we have no say so in the matter. I think it bothers me because of the bank is so unfamiliar and no where near Chicago.
Also when i called the new bank they answering by saying "we are a debt collector and a full lending bank". I asked customer service rep what is your main focus are you a debt collector or a lending bank and she said both.
I guess i just feel it's a breech of contract even though it's hidden in terms and the gov should step in to stop it!
LipsTo se jednostavno čini kao sumnjiva praksa ovih banaka. Tražite najbolje kamatne stope i najbolje akreditovane banke samo da biste ih poslali u neku Joe Blov banku za koju se nikad ne čuju.
To je kao prekršaj i oni stavljaju vaš dom na kocku, a mi nemamo pravo glasa po tom pitanju. Mislim da mi smeta jer je banka tako nepoznata i nigde blizu Čikaga.
Takođe, kada sam nazvao novu banku, odgovorili su mi „mi smo uterivač dugova i puna banka zajma“. Pitao sam predstavnika službe za korisnike na čemu je vaš glavni fokus da li ste uterivač dugova ili banka zajma i ona je rekla i jedno i drugo.
Pretpostavljam da samo osećam da je to kršenje ugovora iako je skriveno u uslovima i vlada treba da uskoči da to zaustavi!
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Fuuny thing I never had that occur with a house (Never bought one) but I did have my car contract sold from (I can't remember the first one) but it was sold to BofA and I sent a check, they sent me the title and (Chuckle) the check bounced and so BofA never got their $275.35 out of the deal!
Zanimljiva stvar koju nikada nisam imao kod kuće (Nikad je nisam kupio), ali je prodao ugovor o autu od (ne mogu da se setim prvog), ali je prodat BofA-u i poslao sam ček, poslali su mi titula i (Chuckle) ček je odbio i tako BofA nikada nije dobio svojih 275,35 dolara iz posla!
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It just seems like such a shady practice from these banks. You search for the best interest rates and best accredited banks only to have them shipped off to some joe blow bank that is never heard of.
It's like a violation and they are putting your home on the line and we have no say so in the matter. I think it bothers me because of the bank is so unfamiliar and no where near Chicago.
Also when i called the new bank they answering by saying "we are a debt collector and a full lending bank". I asked customer service rep what is your main focus are you a debt collector or a lending bank and she said both.
I guess i just feel it's a breech of contract even though it's hidden in terms and the gov should step in to stop it!
Lips
awful awful awful lips
To se jednostavno čini kao sumnjiva praksa ovih banaka. Tražite najbolje kamatne stope i najbolje akreditovane banke samo da biste ih poslali u neku Joe Blov banku za koju se nikad ne čuju.
To je kao prekršaj i oni stavljaju vaš dom na kocku, a mi nemamo pravo glasa po tom pitanju. Mislim da mi smeta jer je banka tako nepoznata i nigde blizu Čikaga.
Takođe, kada sam nazvao novu banku, odgovorili su mi „mi smo uterivač dugova i puna banka zajma“. Pitao sam predstavnika za korisničku podršku na šta je vaš glavni fokus da li ste uterivač dugova ili banka kreditor, a ona je rekla i jedno i drugo.
Pretpostavljam da samo osećam da je to kršenje ugovora iako je skriveno u uslovima i vlada bi trebalo da uskoči da to zaustavi!
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