Da li je moguće biti samo prijatelji?

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- u Nov 28, 09, 03:52:31 PM
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Hi Guys and Dolls!
Breaking up in a relationship is never an easy thing to do. Unless it is mutual agreement there is always a certain amount of grieving. Even in mutual break ups there would still have to be a sense of loss from the life we once knew. It is definitely the same grief one would experience of death.
Aside from a very bad relationship where there is no hope of even being civil, is it possible to be friends after a break up? Is it too difficult to flip a switch and simply be friends when you were once lovers?
LipsZdravo momci i lutke!
Raskid u vezi nikada nije laka stvar. Osim ako nije obostrano, uvek postoji određena količina tugovanja. Čak iu međusobnim raskidima i dalje bi morao postojati osećaj gubitka od života koji smo nekada poznavali. Definitivno je ista tuga koju bi doživeo smrt.
Osim veoma loše veze u kojoj nema nade da ćete biti čak i građanski, da li je moguće biti prijatelji nakon raskida? Da li je previše teško prebaciti prekidač i jednostavno biti prijatelji kada ste nekada bili ljubavnici?
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- Imagin.ation
- u Nov 28, 09, 04:43:40 PM
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Lips,
I have tried, and every time, men don't get mad at me please..
But it has been the HIM everytime that can't handle a just being friends relationship, being friends makes it that there is just certain things
you can't talk about anymore.
I had one if i even mentioned going to the club, or dating.. he got an attitude, got all mad, expecting me to stay single lol.. myself i just wished him well
If it's not the "get back together" it's the "i can't stand seeing you with someone else" thing
I have no problem with it, i just can't see not being friends just
because a relationship didn't work out.. to just go on like
you didn't know each other, after you loved and cared for one another..
I had one that became my best friend after a relationship
I think if you can't be friends, then it was something else emotionally
wrong in the relationship, but also it can depend on what kind of
break-up, whether it was a cheating, or lying, or a trust issue.. then it could be different, even then.. i can forgive, but we will stay just friends
Can't hate each other when you loved and cared for each other at one timeUsne,
Pokušala sam, i svaki put se muškarci ne ljute na mene, molim te..
Ali ON je svaki put bio taj koji ne može da se nosi sa odnosom samo biti prijatelj, prijateljstvo znači da postoje samo određene stvari
ne možeš više da pričaš.
Imao sam jedan ako sam čak pomenuo da idem u klub, ili izlazim.. on je dobio stav, pobesneo je, očekujući da ostanem sam lol.. lično sam mu samo poželeo dobro
Ako to nije "ostanite zajedno", to je "ne mogu da podnesem da te vidim sa nekim drugim"
Nemam problem sa tim, samo ne vidim da smo samo prijatelji
jer veza nije uspela.. da se samo nastavi kao
niste se poznavali, nakon što ste se voleli i brinuli jedno o drugom..
Imao sam jednog koji mi je postao najbolji prijatelj nakon veze
Mislim da ako ne možete da budete prijatelji, onda je to bilo nešto drugo emotivno
pogrešno u vezi, ali može zavisiti i od toga kakav
raskid, da li je to bila prevara, ili laganje, ili pitanje poverenja.. onda bi moglo biti drugačije, čak i tada.. mogu da oprostim, ali ostaćemo samo prijatelji
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- drpsyce38
- u Nov 28, 09, 08:25:01 PM
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Yeah, I am afraid most men can't handle the "lets be friends." Men hear that and INTERPRET it as the woman saying: "I want to keep you around a little, but NO f..king! Because I am looking for someone else to do that with!"
I know that is NOT what you women mean, but that is what men often hear.Da, bojim se da većina muškaraca ne može da se nosi sa "hajde da budemo prijatelji". Muškarci to čuju i TUMAČAJU kao što žena kaže: "Hoću da te zadržim malo, ali NE jebote! Jer tražim nekog drugog da to uradim!"
Znam da to NIJE ono što vi žene mislite, ali to je ono što muškarci često čuju. -
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- Shelli
- u Nov 28, 09, 10:31:43 PM
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Hey Lips,
Why would I want to be friends with my ex?? So we could double date?? My rule was basically when it's over it's over and I move on.
Well that was my theory until my last relationship. When my ex and I broke up (it was a mutual, we knew we weren't right for each other) he basically convinced me that we had been together so long he needed my "friendship" We were the best of friends prior to us getting together so I decided to make an exception to my rule. BIG mistake!! Unfortunately what ended up happening (twice) was that our friendship brought us back together in "bed" and we would end up in our same BAD relationship.
Finally I told him that it is impossible for us to be friends because sex ALWAYS brought us back together. I actually changed my number because I knew one of us would give in and try to "just be friends" again. I did that around the same time that I moved about 70 miles away. I did still have his number, but I was strong and didn't call!!
It sounds kind of drastic, but we both were unable to move on even though we new we were BAD for each other. The whole friendship thing really never lets either person in the relationship actually "get over" the other.
He did try and contact me via email and instant messenger, wondering how his "friend" was. It was well over 6 months before I even responded to him. I always keep it short and sweet. I am not sure if I would say we are "friends" but I guess we aren't enemies.
Hej usne,
Zašto bih želeo da budem prijatelj sa svojim bivšim?? Da bismo mogli duplo izlaziti?? Moje pravilo je bilo u osnovi kada je gotovo, gotovo je i idem dalje.
Pa to je bila moja teorija do moje poslednje veze. Kada smo moj bivši i ja raskinuli (to je bilo zajedničko, znali smo da nismo pravi jedno za drugo) on me je u suštini ubedio da smo bili zajedno toliko dugo da mu je trebalo moje "prijateljstvo" Bili smo najbolji prijatelji pre nas okupljajući se pa sam odlučio da napravim izuzetak od svog pravila. Velika greška!! Nažalost, ono što se na kraju dogodilo (dva puta) je da nas je naše prijateljstvo ponovo spojilo u "krevet" i da bismo završili u našoj istoj LOŠOJ vezi.
Na kraju sam mu rekla da je nemoguće da budemo prijatelji jer nas je seks UVEK spojio. Zapravo sam promenio broj jer sam znao da će neko od nas pokleknuti i ponovo pokušati da "samo budemo prijatelji". Uradio sam to otprilike u isto vreme kada sam se preselio oko 70 milja dalje. Još uvek sam imao njegov broj, ali sam bio jak i nisam zvao!!
Zvuči nekako drastično, ali oboje nismo mogli da nastavimo dalje iako smo bili novi, bili smo LOŠI jedno za drugo. Čitava stvar o prijateljstvu zaista nikada ne dozvoljava nijednoj osobi u vezi da "preboli" drugu.
Pokušao je da me kontaktira putem e-pošte i instant mesindžera, pitajući se kako je njegov „prijatelj“. Prošlo je više od 6 meseci pre nego što sam mu uopšte odgovorio. Uvek je kratko i slatko. Nisam siguran da li bih rekao da smo „prijatelji“, ali pretpostavljam da nismo neprijatelji.
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- Imagin.ation
- u Nov 29, 09, 04:52:57 PM
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Shelli, i agree with you..
I can care enough for him to move on and be happy
and if friends we can be then thats fine, but if its over
then its over.. you stay friends or stay away.. lolŠeli, slažem se sa tobom..
Dovoljno mi je stalo do njega da nastavi dalje i bude srećan
i ako možemo biti prijatelji onda je to u redu, ali ako je gotovo
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- drpsyce38
- u Nov 29, 09, 04:59:15 PM
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Again, guys HEAR lets-be-friends as "You can keep my number, but I am not going to boink you anymore."
Opet, momci ČUJU da se družimo kao "Možete zadržati moj broj, ali neću više da vas kljukam."
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- Shelli
- u Nov 29, 09, 05:01:32 PM
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Hey dr, I can't even tell ya the last time I heard it referred to as BOINK!!!!!LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Hej dr, ne mogu ni da vam kažem kada sam poslednji put čuo da se zove BOINK!!!!! -
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- u Nov 29, 09, 05:41:34 PM
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Lol.. well if we boink we boink...
lol.. pa ako fućkamo, grizemo...
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- Imagin.ation
- u Nov 29, 09, 05:47:36 PM
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i wouldn't really get into his boinkn' bidness, we are just friends..
so he should stay out of my own boink. Men.. they are just gonna
boink and boink, but if we go and boink.. they get all madne bih baš ulazio u njegove klošare, mi smo samo prijatelji..
tako da treba da se drži podalje od mene. Muškarci.. oni će samo
bonk i boink, ali ako idemo i bonk.. svi se naljute -
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- soda69
- u Nov 29, 09, 05:57:48 PM
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not sure about being able to maintain a friendship after a bad break up. i haven't been in one since highschool (almost 25 yrs ago). i've chosen to explore and be content with non-committal friendship with women. i tend to be very outgoing and flirtacious - laid back and casual. for the most part the beginning period of hanging out has been lots of fun...and then sex happens...and again..and again..until....the inevitable happens...i can't seem to find a word that best describes what it means.. which is why i had to come up with one of my own;
sackrilege - sack-ri-lege
pronounciation - \ˈsa-krə-lij\
definition: similar to sacrilege - but not referring to anything religious. it is a violation or improper reception of a man's friendship in bed.
perhaps it is the social norm to expect a commitment after having sex a few times however it is an expectation that was doomed from the beginning. and as expected the women never take well to my non-committal ways and will go through their period of vandetta and spite. but amazingly as time goes by they finally get to know the true me which is still the same guy the first met and more - still outgoing, flirtacious, laid back, casual and now adding a good friend who expects nothing from you but is always there if you need him. and once that has sunked in, the friendship is awesome.nisam siguran da bi mogao da održi prijateljstvo nakon lošeg raskida. Nisam bio ni u jednom od srednje škole (pre skoro 25 godina). Odabrao sam da istražujem i budem zadovoljan neobaveznim prijateljstvom sa ženama. Ja imam tendenciju da budem veoma otvoren i flertujući - opušten i ležeran. uglavnom je početak druženja bio veoma zabavan...a onda se seks desi...i opet...i opet...dok se ne desi neizbežno...ne mogu da pronađi reč koja najbolje opisuje šta ona znači.. zbog čega sam morao da smislim neku svoju;
sackrilege - sack-ri-lege
izgovor - \ˈsa-krә-lij\
definicija: slično svetogrđu – ali se ne odnosi ni na šta religiozno. to je kršenje ili nepravilan prijem čovekovog prijateljstva u krevetu.
možda je društvena norma očekivati posvećenost nakon nekoliko seksa, međutim to je očekivanje koje je od početka bilo osuđeno na propast. i kao što se očekivalo, žene nikada ne prihvataju moje neobavezujuće načine i proći će kroz period vandete i inata. ali zapanjujuće kako vreme prolazi, oni konačno upoznaju pravog mene koji je i dalje isti momak koga je prvi put sreo i više - i dalje otvoren, koketan, opušten, ležeran i sada dodaje dobrog prijatelja koji ništa ne očekuje od tebe, ali je uvek tu ako ti treba. a kada se to utopi, prijateljstvo je sjajno. -
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- Imagin.ation
- u Nov 29, 09, 06:19:48 PM
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Soda.. see now we'd be friends i like that kind of man lol..
The reason im so interested in this is because i recently went through a break up.. well about 8 months ago.. and he cannot understand
that i just want to be friends and nothing else, it makes him mad
that i dont get jealous or care about what he does, that i don't try and get him back, i can be friends, wish him well and thats how i feel about any
other relationships, but at the same time im trying to live my life
but he doesn't want to let me.. so if that is the case, then im finding out
that he really didn't care for ME, if he can't let me be happy..
Now what IM trying to say is.. I can be friends.. it's the other that can't
I'm civil and understanding.. that level of a relationship didn't work for us..
So let's just be friends... now even a friendship won't work?
I'm not talking about any bad relationships, those are just DONE in my book
I guess they really kind of sort out, i'm never on a bad term break-up..
Good term or mutual break-ups.. why not be friends..Soda.. vidiš sad bismo bili prijatelji sviđa mi se takav čovek lol..
Razlog zašto sam toliko zainteresovan za ovo je zato što sam nedavno prošla kroz raskid.. pa pre oko 8 meseci.. i on ne može da razume
da samo želim da budemo prijatelji i ništa drugo, to ga ljuti
da ne postajem ljubomoran niti brinem o tome šta radi, da ne pokušavam da ga vratim, mogu biti prijatelji, poželeti mu dobro i tako se osećam prema bilo kom
druge veze, ali u isto vreme pokušavam da živim svoj život
ali on ne želi da mi dozvoli.. pa ako je to slučaj, onda saznajem
da mu stvarno nije stalo do MENE, ako ne može da me pusti da budem srećna..
Ono što IM pokušava da kažem je.. Ja mogu biti prijatelji.. drugi je taj koji ne može
Ja sam uljudan i pun razumevanja.. taj nivo odnosa nam nije uspeo..
Pa hajde da budemo prijatelji... sada ni prijateljstvo neće uspeti?
Ne govorim ni o kakvim lošim vezama, one su samo Urađene u mojoj knjizi
Pretpostavljam da su se stvarno nekako sredili, nikad nisam u lošem raskidu..
Dobar termin ili međusobni raskidi.. zašto ne bismo bili prijatelji.. -
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- soda69
- u Nov 29, 09, 06:52:06 PM
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i think much of it has to do with how we were brought up and what life experiences mould. also it can be hard for a person to differentiate love from obsession or dependentancy or even fear of change. it's so easy for anyone to fall into that trap and i'm no different which is why i try and avoid it altogether. everything for me regarding my relationships with woman is casual - casual evenings, casual talks, casual vacations, casual lunches and dinners and even casual sex. And since its casual for not just me but everyone - it's been great.
Mislim da mnogo toga ima veze sa načinom na koji smo vaspitani i kakva su životna iskustva. takođe može biti teško za osobu da razlikuje ljubav od opsesije ili zavisnosti ili čak straha od promene. tako je lako za svakoga da upadne u tu zamku i ja se ne razlikujem zbog čega pokušavam da je izbegnem u potpunosti. za mene je sve što se tiče mojih odnosa sa ženom ležerno - neobavezne večeri, neobavezni razgovori, neobavezni odmori, obični ručkovi i večere, pa čak i neobavezni seks. A pošto je to ne samo za mene, već i za sve - bilo je odlično.
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- Imagin.ation
- u Nov 29, 09, 07:08:39 PM
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Well Soda.. I don't care what anyone says, if you fall in
love and it's the wrong person.. it hurts, happened to me
and the pain was horrible.. so yes i've been afraid.. so
i'm like you i tend not to get deep and yes even after this
i can and would be friends with him, you care and love them
when they are yours, but when they are not yours any longer
you don't.. not even enough to be friends.. then it wasn't true.
I beleive the right person will come along, and when he does
i'll know it and so will he.. meantime being friends and
understanding that works for me, then theres no break-ups!Pa Soda.. Nije me briga šta neko kaže, ako upadneš
ljubav i to je pogrešna osoba.. boli, desilo mi se
a bol je bio užasan.. pa da, plašio sam se.. dakle
Ja sam kao ti, ne ulazim duboko i da čak i posle ovoga
mogu i bih bio prijatelj sa njim, ti ih je briga i voliš
kad su tvoje, ali kad više nisu tvoje
nemaš.. ni dovoljno da budemo prijatelji.. onda to nije bila istina.
Verujem da će naići prava osoba, i kada dođe
ja ću to znati i on će.. u međuvremenu biti prijatelji i
ako razumem da to radi za mene, onda nema raskida! -
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- soda69
- u Nov 29, 09, 08:05:09 PM
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yea...i hear what you are saying...i think my perception or understanding of love is different now. although i have gone through the pains of what i thought was love in the past. my philosophy has changed much since those times. the kind of love that intertwines a couple together. the same kind of love that wields a bond so strong nothing not even themselves could separate...is a phenomenon in these present times. synthetic or superficial love has taken its place and we have become so conformed to the ways of this world; too blinded to recognize it.
da...čujem šta govoriš...mislim da je moja percepcija ili razumevanje ljubavi sada drugačija. iako sam prošao kroz bolove onoga što sam mislio da je ljubav u prošlosti. moja filozofija se mnogo promenila od tih vremena. vrsta ljubavi koja prepliće par zajedno. ista vrsta ljubavi koja ima tako jaku vezu da ništa što ni oni sami ne bi mogli da razdvoje... je fenomen u ovim sadašnjim vremenima. sintetička ili površna ljubav je zauzela svoje mesto i mi smo se toliko prilagodili putevima ovog sveta; previše zaslepljen da bi ga prepoznao.
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- Shelli
- u Nov 29, 09, 09:07:44 PM
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Dangggggggg I leave for a few a little bit and this topic gets VERY interesting!!!
Soda, I guess you would have no problem sharing your friendship with Imagin.ation and I!!!!
I might try Soda's non committal way. I would just need to remind him, that there is NO hope of commitment! As soon as he wants to see me more than once a week, I cut it off!!!! hehe
I gotta agree with you Soda about the expectation on commitment after sex a few times. There are men out there that expect a commitment even if it is just once. Sometimes you just have to call it was it is, casual sex.Dangggggggg ostavljam još malo i ova tema postaje VEOMA zanimljiva!!!
Soda, pretpostavljam da ne bi imao problema da podeliš svoje prijateljstvo sa Imagin.ation i ja!!!!
Možda bih probao Sodin neobavezujući način. Trebao bih samo da ga podsetim, da NEMA nade u posvećenost! Čim želi da me vidi više od jednom nedeljno, prekinula sam!!!! hehe
Moram da se složim sa tobom Soda u vezi sa očekivanjima posvećenosti posle seksa nekoliko puta. Postoje muškarci koji očekuju posvećenost, čak i ako je to samo jednom. Ponekad jednostavno moraš da nazoveš da jeste, usputni seks. -
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- u Nov 30, 09, 04:37:33 AM
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In majority of cases I'd say NO! In my opinion, it's possible only if it's REALLY mutual decision! And fillings of the both partners have gone...that happens so rare!
To be friends will mean that you will aware about next partner's relationship! But if one of them still have something, it will be painful! Jealousy and so on...Except feelings there also can be a sense of property...Too many obstacles for friendship I think!U većini slučajeva bih rekao NE! Po mom mišljenju, to je moguće samo ako je ZAISTA obostrana odluka! A plombe oba partnera su nestale...to se dešava tako retko!
Biti prijatelji će značiti da ćete biti svesni odnosa sledećeg partnera! Ali ako neko od njih ipak ima nešto, biće bolno! Ljubomora i tako dalje... Osim osećanja, može postojati i osećaj imovine... Mislim da je previše prepreka za prijateljstvo! -
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- goldenboy
- u Nov 30, 09, 11:16:38 AM
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I remain best friends with my ex girlfriend.......it is possible just because the chemistry is gone doesn't mean the friendship has to end. She's happy and I'm happy and we are happy for eachother
Ostajem najbolji prijatelj sa bivšom devojkom.......moguće je samo zato što je hemija nestala ne znači da prijateljstvo mora da se završi. Ona je srećna i ja sam srećan i srećni smo jedno zbog drugog
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- Lipstick
- u Dec 01, 09, 03:46:32 AM
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I think it would really depend on a couple of factors. A good friend of mine recently left her husband. He is devasted and wants her back. Where she has already moved on and feels much happier.
If one is seriously pining for the other....i think its almost impossible to establish a friendship.
LipsMislim da bi to zaista zavisilo od nekoliko faktora. Moja dobra prijateljica je nedavno napustila muža. On je shrvan i želi je nazad. Gde je već krenula dalje i oseća se mnogo srećnijom.
Ako jedno ozbiljno čezne za drugim....mislim da je skoro nemoguće uspostaviti prijateljstvo.
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- soda69
- u Dec 01, 09, 09:45:57 AM
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as i wrote earlier...there's this inevitable phase that needs to be dealt with...some of the symptoms or consequences have been mentioned, like jealousy or possessiveness...having dealt with it a few times...i've learned to stand firm and be true to who i am right from the beginning and on to the next beginning where it does become friendship. this is important because during the sackrilege period i have always found that the woman changes (sorry women - i can only speak from my own perspective) - sometimes she turns all clingy and whinny, while others transform into such a biotch..some start to shower you with gifts or favours yet others want to rip my head of and dig their nails into my arm gauging them like cats. as for me, i stay the same - i stick to my flirtactious and outgoing ways - making plans as i normally would with others but also reassuring the woman that she's still a friend. at first she may take it as an insult but later those thoughts disappear - before you know it we become great friends just as i had hoped we would
Dangggggggg I leave for a few a little bit and this topic gets VERY interesting!!!
Soda, I guess you would have no problem sharing your friendship with Imagin.ation and I!!!!
I might try Soda's non committal way. I would just need to remind him, that there is NO hope of commitment! As soon as he wants to see me more than once a week, I cut it off!!!! hehe
I gotta agree with you Soda about the expectation on commitment after sex a few times. There are men out there that expect a commitment even if it is just once. Sometimes you just have to call it was it is, casual sex.
kao što sam ranije napisao...postoji ova neizbežna faza sa kojom se treba pozabaviti...pominjali su se neki od simptoma ili posledica, kao što su ljubomora ili posesivnost...sam se suočio sa tim nekoliko puta...ja sam naučio sam da stojim čvrsto i da budem veran onome ko sam od početka pa do sledećeg početka gde to postaje prijateljstvo. ovo je važno jer sam tokom perioda sackrilege-a uvek otkrivao da se žena menja (izvinite žene - mogu da govorim samo iz svoje perspektive) - ponekad ona postane sva prilepljena i cviležna, dok se druge pretvaraju u takvu kurvu..neke počnu da se obasipam te poklonima ili uslugama, a drugi žele da mi počupaju glavu i zabiju nokte u moju ruku mereći ih kao mačke. što se mene tiče, ostajem isti - držim se svog flertovanja i druženja - pravim planove kao što bih inače radio sa drugima, ali i uveravajući ženu da je ona i dalje prijatelj. u početku bi to mogla shvatiti kao uvredu, ali kasnije te misli nestaju - pre nego što to shvatiš, postali smo veliki prijatelji baš kao što sam se nadao da ćemo
Dangggggggg ostavljam još malo i ova tema postaje VEOMA zanimljiva!!!
Soda, pretpostavljam da ne bi imao problema da podeliš svoje prijateljstvo sa Imagin.ation i ja!!!!
Možda bih probao Sodin neobavezujući način. Trebao bih samo da ga podsetim, da NEMA nade u posvećenost! Čim želi da me vidi više od jednom nedeljno, prekinuo sam!!!! hehe
Moram da se složim sa tobom Soda u vezi sa očekivanjima posvećenosti posle seksa nekoliko puta. Postoje muškarci koji očekuju posvećenost, čak i ako je to samo jednom. Ponekad jednostavno morate nazvati da jeste, usputni seks.
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