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  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    A new online gambling bill will be introduced in the coming days, paving the way for legalized online gambling for US citizens. 

    The act will seek to permit wagering at casinos in-person and through both telephone and Internet wagering on sporting events, poker and casino games.

    A "commission" will be set up to approve operators, some of which have already submitted applications.

    It's about time!!!!!!

    Novi zakon o onlajn kockanju biće uveden u narednim danima, čime će se otvoriti put legalizovanom onlajn kockanju za građane SAD.

    Zakon će nastojati da dozvoli klađenje u kazinu lično i putem telefona i interneta na sportske događaje, poker i kazino igre.

    Biće formirana „komisija“ za odobravanje operatera, od kojih su neki već podneli prijave.

    Bilo je krajnje vreme!!!!!!

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Good news

    Dobre vesti

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Very good news.  I'm pleased about that.

    blue

    Veoma dobre vesti. Drago mi je zbog toga.

    Plavi

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    How is that gonna speed things up, do you have any details, when a bill gets introduced it has to go to the committee and so forth and so on and the bill can die on the floor...any more info please post...thanks.

    Kako će to da ubrza stvari, imate li neke detalje, kada se predlog zakona unese mora da ide na komisiju i tako dalje i tako dalje i zakon može da umre na podu... bilo koje više informacija molim da objavite.. .Hvala.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Its still going to take a long time they have to figure out how to tax us and so on and so forth.  They should have left it the way it was and not ban us from playing.  But any ways I cant wait. Been waiting to long.  I think its been since sept,06 i belive.

    I dalje će im trebati mnogo vremena da shvate kako da nas oporezuju i tako dalje i tako dalje. Trebalo je da ostave kako je bilo i da nam ne zabranjuju da igramo. Ali na sve načine ne mogu da čekam. Dugo se čekalo. Mislim da je to od septembra, verujem.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    They already know how to tax us, that won't be an issue.

    Oni već znaju da nas oporezuju, to neće biti problem.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    They already know how to tax us, that won't be an issue.


    Yeah, out the patootie.

    Oni već znaju da nas oporezuju, to neće biti problem.


    Da, napolje.
  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Well it is not an easy process....the pros and the cons, the left wing and the right wing, the lovers and the haters, the politicians, the underworld, the scammers, the advocates and the foes, the gamblers and the nongamblers, the senate and the house, the republicans and the democrats, the religious and the atheists, the ones who think that gambling is a sin and will cause more harm and those of us in the LCB who want the bill and those who dont, the online and the offline casinos and the devil and the casino angels! grin

    Pa to nije lak proces....za i protiv, levo krilo i desno krilo, ljubavnici i mrzitelji, političari, podzemlje, prevaranti, advokati i neprijatelji, kockari i nekockari, senat i kuća, republikanci i demokrate, religiozni i ateisti, oni koji misle da je kocka greh i da će naneti više štete i mi u LCB koji želimo račun i oni koji to ne žele, onlajn i oflajn kazina i đavo i kazino anđeli! grin

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    I just come accross this story.

    Online gambling foe Jon Kyl is reportedly making things very difficult on the US Treasury by holding up appointments for officials in key international finance and tax offices. Recent Poker suggests that this issue may be due to his disappointment that the ban on Internet financial transactions with online gambling companies has not been implemented.

    Last month, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner allowed for a 6 month delay in implementation of the policy enforcement for online gambling prohibition.  Kyl was a so-author of the law that bans most forms of online gambling, aptly titled the Unlawful Internet Gaming Enforcement Act (UIGEA). 

    In the past, the Arizona Senator has made it a point to spearhead efforts to enforce the regulations including sending a letter out to then President Bush, urging him to understand the dangers online gambling poses to America's youth.

    Kyl has made it a mission to ban gambling on the Web since 1998.



    Upravo sam naišao na ovu priču.

    Neprijatelj onlajn kockanja Jon Kil navodno otežava stvari u američkom Trezoru zadržavajući imenovanja za zvaničnike u ključnim međunarodnim finansijskim i poreskim kancelarijama. Recent Poker sugeriše da je ovo pitanje možda zbog njegovog razočaranja što zabrana Internet finansijskih transakcija sa kompanijama za online kockanje nije sprovedena.

    Prošlog meseca, ministar finansija Timoti Gajtner dozvolio je šestomesečno odlaganje sprovođenja politike zabrane kockanja na mreži. Kil je bio autor zakona koji zabranjuje većinu oblika onlajn kockanja, prikladno nazvanog Zakonom o primeni zakona o nezakonitim internet igrama (UIGEA).

    U prošlosti, senator iz Arizone je stavio do znanja da predvodi napore za sprovođenje propisa, uključujući i slanje pisma tadašnjem predsedniku Bušu, pozivajući ga da razume opasnosti koje onlajn kockanje predstavlja za američku omladinu.

    Kil je zabranio kockanje na Internetu od 1998. godine.



  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Well it is not an easy process....the pros and the cons, the left wing and the right wing, the lovers and the haters, the politicians, the underworld, the scammers, the advocates and the foes, the gamblers and the nongamblers, the senate and the house, the republicans and the democrats, the religious and the atheists, the ones who think that gambling is a sin and will cause more harm and those of us in the LCB who want the bill and those who dont, the online and the offline casinos and the devil and the casino angels! grin


    Absolutely true!!!


    Tony or anyone that can answer, what was the big issue for the ban in the first place to take place, what are the reasons for it?

    Pa to nije lak proces....za i protiv, levo krilo i desno krilo, ljubavnici i mrzitelji, političari, podzemlje, prevaranti, advokati i neprijatelji, kockari i nekockari, senat i kuća, republikanci i demokrate, religiozni i ateisti, oni koji misle da je kocka greh i da će naneti više štete i mi u LCB koji želimo račun i oni koji to ne žele, onlajn i oflajn kazina i đavo i kazino anđeli! grin


    Potpuno tačno!!!


    Toni ili neko ko može da odgovori, šta je bio veliki problem da se zabrana uopšte dogodi, koji su razlozi za to?
  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Barney Frank He is the one that has been fighting for us.

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Legislation aimed at reversing a three-year-old ban on Americans placing online bets was introduced on Wednesday by U.S. House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank.


    The Internet Gambling Regulation Consumer Protection & Enforcement Act would establish a federal regulatory and enforcement framework for online gaming.

    Frank said the bill would give the U.S. Treasury Department the authority to establish regulations and license Internet gambling operators.

    The Treasury would also have the authority to revoke or terminate the license of any operator that violates the law. Enforcement actions could also include fines, according to the bill.

    "The government should not interfere with people's liberties," said Frank.

    The Massachusetts Democrat also told reporters he is introducing separate legislation to freeze the implementation of online gambling regulations under a Bush administration-era law.

    European online gambling firms lost billions of euros in value after Congress made it illegal for banks and credit card companies to make payments to online gambling sites.

    Republicans controlled the White House and Congress when the Bush-era law was approved. Now, Democrats are in control in both branches of the government, but it is unclear how the Obama administration will handle the issue.

    Companies involved in the issue include PartyGaming Plc and 888.com.

    Frank's bill quickly drew criticism from a senior Republican lawmaker opposed to gambling.

    "Illegal off-shore Internet gambling sites are a criminal enterprise," said Representative Spencer Bachus, the top Republican on the financial services committee. "Allowing them to operate unfettered in the United States would present a clear danger to our youth, who are subject to becoming addicted to gambling at an early age," said Bachus from Alabama.

    Barnei Frank On je taj koji se bori za nas.

    VAŠINGTON (Rojters) – Zakon koji ima za cilj da poništi tri godine staru zabranu Amerikancima da se klađenja na mreži uveo je u sredu predsednik Komiteta za finansijske usluge američkog Predstavničkog doma Barni Frank.


    Zakon o zaštiti potrošača i sprovođenju propisa o internet kockanju bi uspostavio federalni regulatorni i okvir za sprovođenje za onlajn igre.

    Frank je rekao da će nacrt zakona američkom ministarstvu finansija dati ovlašćenje da uspostavi propise i licencira operatere za internet kockanje.

    Trezor bi takođe imao ovlašćenje da oduzme ili ukine licencu bilo kom operateru koji krši zakon. Radnje izvršenja takođe mogu uključivati novčane kazne, navodi se u predlogu zakona.

    „Vlada ne bi trebalo da se meša u slobode ljudi“, rekao je Frank.

    Demokrata iz Masačusetsa je takođe rekao novinarima da uvodi poseban zakon za zamrzavanje primene propisa o kockanju na mreži u skladu sa zakonom iz doba Bušove administracije.

    Evropske kompanije za onlajn kockanje izgubile su milijarde evra u vrednosti nakon što je Kongres zabranio bankama i kompanijama za izdavanje kreditnih kartica da vrše plaćanja na sajtovima za onlajn kockanje.

    Republikanci su kontrolisali Belu kuću i Kongres kada je usvojen zakon iz Bušove ere. Sada demokrate imaju kontrolu u oba ogranka vlade, ali je nejasno kako će Obamina administracija rešiti to pitanje.

    Kompanije uključene u ovo pitanje uključuju PartiGaming Plc i 888.com.

    Frankov predlog zakona brzo je izazvao kritike od strane visokog republikanskog poslanika koji se protivio kockanju.

    „Ilegalne off-shore internet stranice za kockanje su zločinački poduhvat“, rekao je predstavnik Spenser Bachus, najviši republikanac u komitetu za finansijske usluge. „Dozvoliti im da nesputano rade u Sjedinjenim Državama predstavljalo bi jasnu opasnost za našu omladinu, koja je podložna da postanu zavisna od kockanja u ranoj mladosti“, rekao je Bachus iz Alabame.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act

    The Department of the Treasury and the Federal Reserve Board (Agencies) issued a joint final rule on December 18, 2008 to implement the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act. The Act "prohibits any person engaged in the business of betting or wagering (as defined in the Act) from knowingly accepting payments in connection with the participation of another person in unlawful Internet gambling." The final rule requires a strengthened screening process at the time of account opening to deny commercial entities that may be acting as Internet casinos access to the payments system. It also requires that policies and procedures be implemented to prevent all debit and credit card payments to Internet casinos. It does not require that checks, ACH payments, or wire transactions related to Internet gambling be monitored or blocked.

    Zakon o sprovođenju nezakonitog internet kockanja

    Ministarstvo finansija i Odbor (agencije) Federalnih rezervi izdali su zajedničko konačno pravilo 18. decembra 2008. za primenu Zakona o sprovođenju zakona o nezakonitom internet kockanju. Zakon „zabranjuje bilo kojoj osobi koja se bavi poslovima klađenja ili klađenja (kao što je definisano u Zakonu) da svesno prihvata uplate u vezi sa učešćem drugog lica u nezakonitom Internet kockanju“. Konačno pravilo zahteva pojačan proces provere u vreme otvaranja računa kako bi se komercijalnim subjektima koji se ponašaju kao internet kazina uskratili pristup sistemu plaćanja. Takođe zahteva da se primenjuju politike i procedure kako bi se sprečila sva plaćanja debitnim i kreditnim karticama internet kazinima. Ne zahteva da se čekovi, ACH plaćanja ili bankovne transakcije povezane sa kockanjem na Internetu nadgledaju ili blokiraju.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    WASHINGTON - Over the objections of gambling opponents in Congress, the Obama administration has granted a request by US Representative Barney Frank to delay a long-scheduled federal crackdown on illegal Internet poker and casino sites.


    “I urged them to do it and I was very pleased,’’ the Newton Democrat said of the delay. “It gives us a chance.’’

    You won’t find the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee at a poker table or roulette wheel, as Frank doesn’t gamble. But he said he does not want the government telling people what to do with their own money.

    Frank has established himself as a friend of the online gambling industry by seeking to overturn a 2006 law that will make it illegal for US credit card companies to process charges from Internet gambling sites.

    The law, intended to cut off the life blood of the $16-billion-a-year online gambling industry, was scheduled to take effect Dec. 1. But last week, the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department pushed back the effective date until June to give Frank and other gambling supporters time to draft a bill to set up a system to regulate and collect taxes from legal online gaming.

    The Obama administration is officially neutral on the issue of Internet gambling but said it granted the delay because of the “considerable interest in Congress in clarifying the laws.’’

    While Frank has been too busy with financial reform to work on gambling this year, advocates are hoping they can ride the momentum from last week’s decision to argue that online gambling can become a moneymaker for federal coffers. A recent report from the Joint Committee on Taxation found the Internet gambling could generate up to $42 billion in tax revenue over the next decade.

    “We love him,’’ said Martin Shapiro, a professional online poker player from Florida. “What Barney Frank is doing is wonderful.’’

    Observers say Frank’s bid is a long shot, particularly since he may have difficulty winning support for a progambling measure in 2010, an election year.

    Long shot or not, gambling opponents are frustrated the administration agreed to the delay. Senator John Kyl of Arizona and Representative Spencer Bachus of Alabama argue that legalizing online gambling is a threat to children and teenagers, who can easily log on and become addicted.

    “Any economic benefit from taxing Internet gambling would be more than offset by the harm it causes our young people,’’ said Bachus, the ranking Republican on the Financial Services Committee. “What we have is a wave of young Americans who are addicted to gambling.’’

    Frank has introduced three bills since 2007 that would nullify the Unlawful Internet Gaming Enforcement Act, which Republicans passed on the final day of the 2006 congressional session. Frank also sent a letter with 18 others in his committee that led to the delay.Continued...

    Frank was brought in to Las Vegas at this year’s World Series of Poker to announce, “Shuffle up and deal’’ - poker’s version of “Start your engines.’’ Frank received a loud ovation, said John Pappas, executive director of the Poker Player’s Alliance.

    “If anyone is a poker player, particularly an online poker player, they know the name Barney Frank,’’ Pappas said. “A lot of people would say, ‘I’m not sure I agree with Barney on everything, but he’s . . . right on this poker issue.’ ’’

    Shapiro said he voted for President Bush in 2004 and always supported Republicans, but his allegiance, along with other conservative poker players, changed after Republicans passed UIGEA in 2006.

    “It seems like what Barney Frank is saying is more along the lines of our personal beliefs,’’ Shapiro said.

    Frank’s stance has helped his campaign war chest, too. Casino and gambling interests have contributed $56,400 in 2009, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

    Online gambling has operated in a legal gray area since it began in the 1990s. The Justice Department says that all bets placed online are illegal, citing a 48-year-old law called the Wire Act that bans bets over telephone lines, though a federal appeals court ruled in 2002 that online wagers didn’t apply under the Wire Act.

    But the Justice Department has not prosecuted individual gamblers in the United States, and nearly all online gambling companies operate offshore, outside of US jurisdiction.

    In September, a federal court in Philadelphia upheld the 2006 ban on credit card transactions against a Constitutional challenge that it violated privacy rights.

    Frank’s push to legalize the business has made temporary allies out of Frank and the financial sector, at the same time that he is fighting to reform Wall Street. The financial sector has been critical of the 2006 rules because they have been asked to enforce an unclear law, said Floyd Stoner, a lobbyist at the American Bankers Association. His organization also asked the Federal Reserve and Treasury to delay UIGEA.

    “We’re not for or against legal gambling on the Internet,’’ said Scott Talbott, head lobbyist at Financial Services Roundtable. “The problem is the bill asked banks to be cops. We should not be the enforcement arm of the US government.’’

    The antigaming law granted some exceptions, including one on horse racing, to the ban on gambling-related credit-card transactions on the Internet. But the law also did not define how banks should differentiate between legal and illegal gambling. Subsequent compliance guidelines from the Federal Reserve and Treasury have not made a clear distinction.

    Last month, MasterCard said it would block all online gambling transactions, including horse racing, which is legal online.

    The Kentucky congressional delegation, four Republicans and two Democrats, then asked for the new rules to be delayed. MasterCard changed course and said it won’t block the transactions, and a spokeswoman said it is using the delay to determine what type of Internet gambling is legal.

    Steve Verdier, director of congressional affairs with the Independent Community Bankers Association, said he wants Frank’s bill to pass. “Congress created this problem, and I think it’s up to Congress to fix it,’’ Verdier said.

    Correction: Because of a reporting error, this story Monday had an incorrect spelling for the name of a professional online poker player from Florida. The player quoted in the story was Martin Shapiro.

    VAŠINGTON - Zbog primedbi protivnika kockanja u Kongresu, Obamina administracija je odobrila zahtev američkog predstavnika Barnija Franka da se odloži dugo planirani federalni udar na ilegalni internet poker i kazino sajtove.


    „Pozvao sam ih da to urade i bio sam veoma zadovoljan“, rekao je Njutn demokrata o odlaganju. "To nam daje šansu."

    Nećete naći predsednika Komiteta za finansijske usluge Predstavničkog doma za poker stolom ili ruletom, jer se Frenk ne kocka. Ali on je rekao da ne želi da vlada govori ljudima šta da rade sa sopstvenim novcem.

    Frank se etablirao kao prijatelj industrije kockanja na mreži pokušavajući da poništi zakon iz 2006. koji će američkim kompanijama za kreditne kartice učiniti nezakonitim da obrađuju naknade sa internet stranica za kockanje.

    Zakon, koji je imao za cilj da prekine životnu krv industriji onlajn kockanja vrednom 16 milijardi dolara godišnje, trebalo je da stupi na snagu 1. decembra. Ali prošle nedelje, Federalne rezerve i Ministarstvo finansija odložili su datum stupanja na snagu do juna da daju Franku i drugim pristalicama kockanja vremena da izrade nacrt zakona za uspostavljanje sistema za regulisanje i naplatu poreza od legalnih onlajn igara.

    Obamina administracija je zvanično neutralna po pitanju internet kockanja, ali je rekla da je odobrila odlaganje zbog „značajnog interesovanja u Kongresu za pojašnjenje zakona“.

    Dok je Frenk bio previše zauzet finansijskom reformom da bi radio na kockanju ove godine, zagovornici se nadaju da će moći iskoristiti zamah od prošlonedeljne odluke da tvrde da onlajn kockanje može da postane zarada za saveznu kasu. Nedavni izveštaj Zajedničkog odbora za poreze pokazao je da bi internet kockanje moglo da generiše do 42 milijarde dolara poreskih prihoda u narednoj deceniji.

    „Volimo ga“, rekao je Martin Šapiro, profesionalni onlajn poker igrač sa Floride. „Ono što Barni Frank radi je divno.“

    Posmatrači kažu da je Frankova kandidatura daleko, posebno zato što će možda imati poteškoća da dobije podršku za meru kockanja u 2010. godini, u izbornoj godini.

    Daleko ili ne, protivnici kockanja su frustrirani što je administracija pristala na odlaganje. Senator Džon Kil iz Arizone i predstavnik Spenser Bachus iz Alabame tvrde da je legalizacija onlajn kockanja pretnja za decu i tinejdžere, koji se lako mogu prijaviti i postati zavisni.

    „Svaka ekonomska korist od oporezivanja internet kockanja bila bi više nego nadoknađena štetom koju nanosi našim mladim ljudima“, rekao je Bachus, republikanac u Komitetu za finansijske usluge. „Ono što imamo je talas mladih Amerikanaca koji su zavisni od kockanja.

    Frank je od 2007. godine predstavio tri zakona koji bi poništili Zakon o sprovođenju nezakonitih internet igara, koji su republikanci usvojili poslednjeg dana sednice Kongresa 2006. godine. Frank je takođe poslao pismo sa još 18 drugih u svom komitetu što je dovelo do odlaganja. Nastavak...

    Frank je doveden u Las Vegas na ovogodišnjoj Vorld Series of Poker da objavi, “Promiješaj i dogovori se” – poker verzija “Pokreni svoje motore”. Frank je dobio glasne ovacije, rekao je John Pappas, izvršni direktor Pokera Savez igrača.

    „Ako je neko igrač pokera, posebno onlajn poker igrač, zna ime Barni Frank“, rekao je Pappas. „Mnogi ljudi bi rekli: 'Nisam siguran da se slažem sa Barnijem u svemu, ali on je . . . upravo po ovom pitanju pokera.' ''

    Šapiro je rekao da je glasao za predsednika Buša 2004. i da je uvek podržavao republikance, ali se njegova odanost, zajedno sa drugim konzervativnim igračima pokera, promenila nakon što su republikanci prošli UIGEA 2006. godine.

    „Izgleda da je ono što Barni Frank govori više u skladu sa našim ličnim uverenjima“, rekao je Šapiro.

    Frankov stav je takođe pomogao njegovoj kampanji. Interesi kazina i kockanja doprineli su 56.400 dolara u 2009, prema Centru za responzivnu politiku.

    Kockanje na mreži funkcioniše u legalnoj sivoj zoni od kada je počelo 1990-ih. Ministarstvo pravde kaže da su sve opklade postavljene putem interneta nezakonite, pozivajući se na 48-godišnji zakon koji se zove Vire Act koji zabranjuje opklade preko telefonskih linija, iako je savezni žalbeni sud 2002. godine presudio da se opklade na mreži ne primenjuju prema Zakonu o Vire Act. .

    Ali Ministarstvo pravde nije krivično gonilo pojedinačne kockare u Sjedinjenim Državama, a skoro sve kompanije za kockanje na mreži posluju u ofšoru, van američke jurisdikcije.

    U septembru je savezni sud u Filadelfiji potvrdio zabranu transakcija kreditnim karticama iz 2006. godine zbog osporavanja Ustava da je time prekršila prava privatnosti.

    Frankovo nastojanje da legalizuje posao stvorilo je privremene saveznike Frenka i finansijskog sektora, u isto vreme kada se bori za reformu Volstrita. Finansijski sektor je bio kritičan prema pravilima iz 2006. jer je od njih zatraženo da sprovode nejasan zakon, rekao je Flojd Stoner, lobista u Američkom udruženju bankara. Njegova organizacija je takođe zatražila od Federalnih rezervi i Trezora da odlože UIGEA.

    „Nismo za ili protiv legalnog kockanja na Internetu“, rekao je Skot Talbot, glavni lobista na okruglom stolu za finansijske usluge. „Problem je što je zakon tražio od banaka da budu policajci. Ne bi trebalo da budemo izvršna ruka američke vlade.''

    Zakon protiv igara odobrio je neke izuzetke, uključujući onaj o konjskim trkama, od zabrane transakcija kreditnim karticama u vezi sa kockanjem na Internetu. Ali zakon takođe nije definisao kako banke treba da prave razliku između legalnog i ilegalnog kockanja. Naknadne smernice za usklađenost od strane Federalnih rezervi i Trezora nisu napravile jasnu razliku.

    Prošlog meseca, MasterCard je rekao da će blokirati sve transakcije kockanja na mreži, uključujući konjske trke, koje su legalne na mreži.

    Delegacija Kongresa Kentakija, četiri republikanca i dva demokrata, zatražila je potom odlaganje novih pravila. MasterCard je promenio kurs i rekao da neće blokirati transakcije, a portparolka je rekla da koristi odlaganje da bi utvrdila koja vrsta internet kockanja je legalna.

    Stiv Verdijer, direktor kongresnih poslova u Udruženju nezavisnih bankara zajednice, rekao je da želi da se Frankov zakon usvoji. „Kongres je stvorio ovaj problem i mislim da je na Kongresu da ga reši“, rekao je Verdier.

    Ispravka: Zbog greške u izveštavanju, ova priča od ponedeljka imala je netačan pravopis za ime profesionalnog onlajn poker igrača sa Floride. Igrač citiran u priči bio je Martin Šapiro.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    U.S. Legislation
    Special Report: Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act
    Many online gaming sites stopped accepting bets when President Bush signed the Unlawful Internet Gambling Act into law on Oct. 13. Although the measure does nothing to change the players' right to bet online, it will eventually force American banks and credit card companies to block some types of electronic transactions to Internet gambling businesses. As a result, the online gaming industry is changing by the day. And Casino City has been tracking the developments since the legislation passed and continues to report on the law’s impact

    That might answer your question @Imagination

    američko zakonodavstvo
    Specijalni izveštaj: Zakon o sprovođenju nezakonitog internet kockanja
    Mnogi sajtovi za igre na mreži prestali su da prihvataju opklade kada je predsednik Buš 13. oktobra potpisao Zakon o nezakonitom internet kockanju. Iako ta mera ne menja ništa da promeni pravo igrača da se klade onlajn, na kraju će primorati američke banke i kompanije za kreditne kartice da blokiraju neke vrste elektronskih transakcija kompanijama za kockanje na Internetu. Kao rezultat toga, industrija onlajn igara se menja iz dana u dan. A Casino Citi prati razvoj događaja od usvajanja zakona i nastavlja da izveštava o uticaju zakona

    To bi moglo da odgovori na vaše pitanje @Imagination

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    So we still have a long ways to go.  This is why before this all started I became a member to all the online casinos microgaming that is.  As far as playtec i cannot play at their casinos they take their stuff serious.  But Yes Tony keep us posted.  

    Dakle, pred nama je još dug put. Ovo je razlog zašto sam pre nego što je sve ovo počelo postao član svih mikrogejming onlajn kazina. Što se tiče plaitec-a ne mogu da igram u njihovim kazinima, oni svoje stvari shvataju ozbiljno. Ali da, Toni, obavesti nas.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Dispatches from the Culture WarsThoughts From the Interface of Science, Religion, Law and Culture

    Kyl Blocking Treasury Nominees Over Online Gambling
    Posted on: January 12, 2010 9:02 AM, by Ed Brayton

    Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona is blocking several Treasury Department nominees to protest the fact that the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act has not yet been implemented.

    Senate Minority Whip Kyl is blocking pending Treasury Department nominees with jurisdiction over tax policy and international finance in response to the Obama administration's delay of new Internet gambling prohibitions, according to Senate aides...Kyl was among the few arguing against a delay.
    The Treasury Department has delayed releasing the implementation rules for the UIGEA because of protests from the banks that the law is unworkable because it does not define what is and is not illegal internet gambling. But those problems were recognized under the Bush administration too. They delayed those same rules for the same reason.

    Kyl was one of the men who wrote the UIGEA and he refuses to admit that his bill sucked. Not only is it a clear violation of liberty, it is just terribly written. If they wanted to outlaw internet gambling, they should have written it to do so. Instead they just told the banks to stop allowing transfers to illegal gambling sites without ever defining what those sites were. It leaves the banks and credit card companies in limbo, not knowing what to block

    Depeše iz kulturnih ratova Misli sa sučelja nauke, religije, prava i kulture

    Kil blokira kandidate za trezor zbog kockanja na mreži
    Objavljeno: 12. januara 2010. u 9:02, autor Ed Braiton

    Senator Jon Kil iz Arizone blokira nekoliko kandidata Ministarstva finansija u znak protesta zbog činjenice da Zakon o sprovođenju nezakonitog internet kockanja još nije primenjen.

    Senatska manjina Vhip Kil blokira kandidate Ministarstva finansija na čekanju sa jurisdikcijom nad poreskom politikom i međunarodnim finansijama kao odgovor na odlaganje nove zabrane internet kockanja od strane Obamine administracije, prema saradnicima Senata...Kil je bio među rijetkima koji su se protivili odlaganju.
    Ministarstvo finansija je odložilo objavljivanje pravila za implementaciju UIGEA-e zbog protesta banaka da je zakon neizvodljiv jer ne definiše šta je, a šta nije nelegalno internet kockanje. Ali ti problemi su prepoznati i pod Bušovom administracijom. Odložili su ta ista pravila iz istog razloga.

    Kil je bio jedan od ljudi koji su napisali UIGEA i odbija da prizna da je njegov račun bio loš. Ne samo da je to jasno kršenje slobode, već je samo strašno napisano. Ako su hteli da zabrane internet kockanje, trebalo je da to napišu. Umesto toga, samo su rekli bankama da prestanu da dozvoljavaju transfere na ilegalne sajtove za kockanje, a da nikada nisu definisali šta su to lokacije. To ostavlja banke i kompanije za kreditne kartice u neizvjesnosti, ne znajući šta da blokiraju

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    Its going to be a while before they figure out what to do.  What I think they should do is throw the whole law in the trash because that is where it belongs.  And that is just my opinion.

    Proći će neko vreme pre nego što shvate šta da rade. Ono što mislim da treba da urade je da ceo zakon bace u smeće jer mu je tamo mesto. I to je samo moje mišljenje.

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    I wanted to note that if the online gaming bill passes, the tax on online gaming may be a way to fund healthcare for the U.S., I think that is an awesome idea, and I am for it all the way.  If you are an advocate for the ill you should write your congressman or congresswomen or contact BARNEY FRANK and sign up for the newsletter and email him and show your support.  I am working here in California with supporters for the bill.  The IRS may start harrassing me but hey they kept my refund last year and wouldnt give it back so they are on the suck wall for me! >:(

    Želeo sam da napomenem da ako zakon o onlajn igrama prođe, porez na igre na mreži može biti način da se finansira zdravstvena zaštita za SAD, mislim da je to sjajna ideja, i ja sam za to do kraja. Ako ste zagovornik obolelih, trebalo bi da pišete svom kongresmenu ili kongresmenki ili da kontaktirate BARNI FRENKA i prijavite se za bilten i da mu pošaljete e-poštu i pokažite svoju podršku. Radim ovde u Kaliforniji sa pristalicama zakona. Poreska uprava će možda početi da me maltretira, ali hej, zadržali su mi povraćaj prošle godine i nisu hteli da mi ga vrate, tako da su mi na udaru! >:(

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    For one, thats like saying.. "oh my she buys way too many pairs of panties from victoria secret, we need to put a control on it"
    Its none of there business what we do with our money, or is it their business?

    Another thing, are they trying to say that we as parents are failing to control our "own" children, and not stir them in the right direction, and use this as an excuse.. looks like they are using children to play on our minds to stop it..

    Another thing, well gee looks to me like its about taxes.. and/or wanting a piece of the action, or more of it, what they aren't getting their part so they just say its "illegal and i don't like it" another way to pry into what we do.. Ban it..until something is worked out that fits our (their) satisfation

    If i wanna spend my money in TIMBUCKTOO, shouldn't i be allowed to do it?

    Blah and so forth.. things just aint right..

    Kao prvo, to je kao da kažete.. "Oh, ona kupuje previše pari gaćica od victoria secret, moramo da stavimo kontrolu na to"
    Nije važno šta mi radimo sa svojim novcem, ili je to njihova stvar?

    Druga stvar, da li oni pokušavaju da kažu da mi kao roditelji ne uspevamo da kontrolišemo svoju "sopstvenu" decu, a ne da ih pokrenemo u pravom smeru, i koriste ovo kao izgovor.. izgleda da koriste decu da nam se igraju na pamet da ga zaustavim..

    Druga stvar, pa, izgleda mi kao da se radi o porezima.. i/ili da žele deo akcije, ili više od toga, šta oni ne dobijaju svoj deo pa samo kažu da je to „nezakonito i ne sviđa mi se to je još jedan način da se uvučemo u ono što radimo. Zabranimo to.. dok se nešto ne razradi što odgovara našem (njihovom) zadovoljstvu

    Ako želim da potrošim svoj novac u TIMBUCKTOO, zar mi ne bi trebalo dozvoliti da to uradim?

    Bla i tako dalje.. stvari jednostavno nisu u redu..

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    This is why a lot of the casino's charge our credit cards with diffrent names so that the charge will go thru.  I don't play with real money as much as before because now i fell it is riged this is the reason why i was asking for the blacklist of the casino's.  These 2 things tie in together.

    Zbog toga većina kazina naplaćuje naše kreditne kartice sa različitim imenima tako da će naplata proći. Ne igram sa pravim novcem toliko kao ranije jer sam sada pao da je namešteno, to je razlog zašto sam tražio crnu listu kazina. Ove 2 stvari su povezane.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    PRAISE THE CASINO GODS!!!!!!

    HVALITE KAZINO BOGOVE!!!!!!

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