Da li ovu životinju treba streljati?

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  • Original engleski Prevod srpski
    Hiya LCB'ers,

    Pets are our best friends. One of the reason for this is they are loyal and will defend us to the end.

    There was recently a story in our local paper about a dog that seriously injured its owner. The reason was to defend a member in the family. Apparently the father was psychically abusing his daughter when the dog jumped in to protect the child.

    The dog was later taken away and terminated. That story bother me considering the dog did what came natural, to protect his loved ones.

    Do you think a animal should be put to sleep in situations like this?

    Lips
    Zdravo LCB'ers,

    Kućni ljubimci su naši najbolji prijatelji. Jedan od razloga za to je što su lojalni i braniće nas do kraja.

    Nedavno se u našem lokalnom listu pojavila priča o psu koji je teško povredio svog vlasnika. Razlog je bio da se brani član u porodici. Očigledno je otac psihički zlostavljao svoju ćerku kada je pas skočio da zaštiti dete.

    Pas je kasnije odveden i ugašen. Ta priča mi smeta s obzirom da je pas uradio ono što je prirodno, da zaštiti svoje najmilije.

    Mislite li da životinju treba uspavati u ovakvim situacijama?

    Usne
  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Hiya Lips,

    Do I think the dogs should have been put down, not really sure. IF the dogs injuries were severe enough that the dog would suffer, maybe. For protecting the little girl ABSOLUTELY NOT!

    Put me in a room with this jerk alone for 5 minutes, what the dog did to him would be nothing after I got through with him.

    LH

    Zdravo usne,

    Da li mislim da je pse trebalo spustiti, nisam baš siguran. AKO bi povrede pasa bile dovoljno teške da bi pas patio, možda. Za zaštitu devojčice APSOLUTNO NE!

    Stavite me u sobu sa ovim kretenom nasamo na 5 minuta, ono što mu je pas uradio neće biti ništa nakon što sam prošao sa njim.

    LH

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Absolutely NOT.

    That dog is a HERO. And I think this man should be put away for abusing his kid.

    Apsolutno ne.

    Taj pas je HEROJ. I mislim da bi ovog čoveka trebalo zatvoriti jer je zlostavljao svoje dete.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    I do not think the animal should of been put to sleep, but anytime an animal shows aggression towards a human and injures them, this is what happens.

    It troubles me.

    They do not take into account why the animal was acting out in the manner it was.  

    I do know this.....This animal died with "Honor,"  in my opinion.

                                                                    PMM

    Mislim da životinju nije trebalo uspavati, ali kad god životinja pokaže agresiju prema čoveku i povredi ga, to se dešava.

    Muči me.

    Ne uzimaju u obzir zašto se životinja ponašala na način na koji je bila.

    Znam ovo.....Ova životinja je umrla sa "Časti", po mom mišljenju.

    PMM

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    In two words: HELL NO.
    The similiar thing happened to me (minus the abuse).
    I had come back from college to visit and our dog Fritz slept on my bed.
    One morning my mom came in to wake me up. Fritz was in a deep sleep,
    got startled and bit mom in the face (stitches/bruising/etc). I think he was thinking he was trying to protect me and wasnt fully awake yet.
    My mom insisted on putting him down the next day.
    He had never ever acted aggresively towards anyone before.
    I begged her to donate him to a shelter, she wouldn't. sad
    Ohhh, Im getting sad just typing all this. :'(
    Anyway, the minute a dog behaves like a dog and exhibits its natural instincts, society is way to quick and harsh to punish by death. There are many no-kill shelters around the world that openly take pets that have shown aggression.

    U dve reči: PAKAO NE.
    Slično mi se desilo (bez zlostavljanja).
    Vratio sam se sa koledža u posetu i naš pas Fric je spavao na mom krevetu.
    Jednog jutra mama je ušla da me probudi. Fric je bio u dubokom snu,
    prepao se i ugrizao mamu u lice (šavovi/modrice/itd). Mislim da je mislio da pokušava da me zaštiti i još nije bio potpuno budan.
    Moja mama je insistirala da ga spusti sledećeg dana.
    Nikada ranije se nije ponašao agresivno prema bilo kome.
    Molio sam je da ga pokloni skloništu, nije. sad
    Ohhh, postajem tužan samo što kucam sve ovo. :'(
    U svakom slučaju, čim se pas ponaša kao pas i pokaže svoje prirodne instinkte, društvo je način da se brzo i oštro kazni smrću. Širom sveta postoji mnogo skloništa bez ubijanja koja otvoreno primaju kućne ljubimce koji su pokazali agresiju.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    I'm with everyone else, the dog is the hero and was just doing what his instincts told him.  What a sad story...WAY too many of those in the news it seems...sad sad sad.  I visit my local dog shelter often, to either see if there might be a 'new' German Shepherd in need of a home or to donate dog treats & food.  I always, no matter what, leave there sad because of the stories about how some of the dogs came to be there.  Some, because they "exhibited aggressive behavior" towards a human.  I am almost always certain that it was not the dogs fault that it displayed aggressive behavior but they cannot speak for themselves and shall either end up abandoned, abused or dropped off at the shelter.  What is wrong with us humans????

    Ja sam sa svima ostalima, pas je heroj i samo je radio ono što mu je instinkt rekao. Kakva tužna priča... Čini se da je previše onih u vestima... tužno tužno tužno. Često posećujem svoj lokalni azil za pse, da vidim da li postoji 'novi' nemački ovčar kome je potreban dom ili da doniram poslastice i hranu za pse. Uvek, bez obzira na sve, odem tužan zbog priča o tome kako su neki psi tamo došli. Neki, jer su "ispoljili agresivno ponašanje" prema čoveku. Gotovo uvek sam siguran da psi nisu krivi što je ispoljio agresivno ponašanje, ali oni ne mogu da govore sami za sebe i biće ili napušteni, zlostavljani ili ostavljeni u azilu. Šta nije u redu sa nama ljudima????

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    I concur that the dog didn't need this. I only hope the father gets what he deserves.

    I had a group of friends who asked me about my dogs once and when I explained about how I got them and learned the abuse they suffered, they asked me if I wanted to kill the previous owners.

    "Nope" I replied. "Just take them 25 miles from help, blow off their knee caps and leave them"

    Justice.

    Slažem se da psu ovo nije trebalo. Nadam se samo da će otac dobiti ono što zaslužuje.

    Imao sam grupu prijatelja koji su me jednom pitali za moje pse i kada sam im objasnio kako sam ih dobio i saznao za zlostavljanje koje su pretrpeli, pitali su me da li želim da ubijem prethodne vlasnike.

    "Ne", odgovorio sam. "Samo ih odvedite 25 milja od pomoći, skinite im kape sa kolena i ostavite ih"

    Pravda.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    It sounds totally wrong to me.  I agree - it should not have been put down for doing what was natural.

    Lips, you've reminded me of my cousin who had a dalmation.  Stunning dog but stone deaf as is quite the norm for this breed.

    The dog ran away from the wife of my cousin and she phoned my cousin up and told him what had happened.  He left his work, found the dog and put him back indoors.

    A few days passed and the same thing happened.  He left work, found the dog and put it indoors.

    Again for the third time it happened again.  He got the dog, took it to the vet and had it put down immediately.

    I was totally gobsmacked that the vet did it and even more upset that my cousin could be so unfair/cruel/mean/intollerant to a deaf dog.

    He regrets it to this day....damn right too.

    blue

    Zvuči mi potpuno pogrešno. Slažem se - nije trebalo da se umanji zbog onoga što je prirodno.

    Usne, podsetio si me na mog rođaka koji je imao dalmaciju. Zadivljujući pas, ali gluv kao što je sasvim uobičajeno za ovu rasu.

    Pas je pobegao od žene mog rođaka i ona je nazvala mog rođaka i rekla mu šta se dogodilo. Napustio je posao, pronašao psa i vratio ga u kuću.

    Prošlo je nekoliko dana i isto se desilo. Napustio je posao, pronašao psa i stavio ga u kuću.

    Ponovo se po treći put ponovilo. Uzeo je psa, odveo ga veterinaru i odmah ga spustio.

    Bio sam potpuno zapanjen što je to uradio veterinar i još više uznemiren što je moj rođak mogao biti tako nepravedan/okrutan/zao/netolerantan prema gluvom psu.

    I dan-danas se kaje.... prokleto tako.

    Plavi

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    I also agree, that dog shouldnt be punished.

    I think pet lovers should consider having a CHIHUAHUA, why? lol
    1/  it costs less to raise and take care of a chihuahua
    2/  if a chihuahua bites, it wont be a major damage and it wont be put to sleep like this dog above

    just a thought, lol
    cool
    2/ 

    Takođe se slažem, tog psa ne treba kazniti.

    Mislim da bi ljubitelji kućnih ljubimaca trebalo da razmisle o tome da imaju CHIHUAHUA, zašto? lol
    1/ manje košta podizanje i briga o čivavi
    2/ ako čivava ujede, neće biti velika šteta i neće biti uspavana kao ovaj pas iznad

    samo misao, lol
    cool
    2/

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    I don't think the dog should have been put down....but if you really go back and think about it.....we wouldn't have our beloved pets at all if it weren't for people in the past putting down animals that showed the slighest bit of aggression. It's how we domesticated animals to start with...alot of breeding and putting down the ones that weren't up to what we wanted. So I would have to guess that's just our way of keeping things in check....It's NOT right, but what else can we do?

    Mislim da psa nije trebalo spustiti....ali ako se stvarno vratite i razmislite o tome...ne bismo uopšte imali naše voljene ljubimce da nije bilo ljudi u prošlost spuštanja životinja koje su pokazale i najmanji deo agresije. To je način na koji smo pripitomili životinje za početak...mnogo razmnožavanja i odbacivanja onih koje nisu bile u skladu sa onim što smo želeli. Dakle, morao bih da pretpostavim da je to samo naš način da držimo stvari pod kontrolom....NIJE u redu, ali šta drugo možemo da uradimo?

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski
    That is a horrible story blue! Way too sad. A sweet soul who's only crime was to be deaf... :'(

    I will never understand people who do this. I don't think to these people think animals are thought of as living creatures with feelings.

    Even when given away to shelters i feel sad..don't get me wrong it's the best thing to do and is better than being put down. But i think how they must pine for their owner.

    But then again......if an owner would give them up surely they weren't that great to begin with.

    ps taaa.........i do have a Chihuahua too!!! He is gonna be 15 years old in August and he is spry as a chicken!!

    Lips
    To je užasna priča plava! Previše tužno. Slatka duša kojoj je jedini zločin da bude gluv... :'(

    Nikada neću razumeti ljude koji to rade. Ne mislim da ovi ljudi misle da se o životinjama misli kao o živim bićima sa osećanjima.

    Čak i kada sam dat u skloništa, osećam se tužno.. nemojte me pogrešno shvatiti, to je najbolja stvar i bolje je nego biti spušten. Ali mislim kako moraju da žude za svojim vlasnikom.

    Ali opet......ako bi ih se vlasnik odrekao, sigurno nisu bili tako sjajni za početak.

    ps taaa.........i ja imam čivavu!!! U avgustu će napuniti 15 godina i bistar je kao pile!!

    Usne
  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    The one thing that really yanks my chain is that "Oh it's showing AGRESSION".. Well, let me say this, I come to your home and yank your food from you, are you going to docile sit there like an idiot or at least try and get it back?

    I NEVER tried that, I'd be quick to growl at this and (If I had teeth) I'd possibly bite.!! But today's kennel/adoption idiots want to dog to show not a "bit" of aggression. I can understand with children around, but then if you're thinking of getting a pet, then maybe you'd better not have kids or be ready to train BOTH of them what is acceptable and what is not.

    I remember when we had the cutest longhaired kitten living at the house, I had just fed the dogs, this kitten saw this and wanted to join. I heard the most vicious growl come the smaller one and that kitten stopped dead and slowly backed up.

    After that no problems grin The smaller dog actually was normally friendly to it, but not with the food!

    Jedina stvar koja mi stvarno trga lanac je ono "O, to pokazuje AGRESiju".. Pa, dozvolite mi da kažem ovo, dolazim u vaš dom i čupam vam hranu od vas, hoćete li da poslušni sedite tu kao idiot ili barem pokušati da ga vratiš?

    NIKAD to nisam probao, brzo bih zarežao na ovo i (da imam zube) možda bih ugrizao.!! Ali današnji idioti u odgajivačnici/usvajanju žele pse da ne pokažu ni malo agresije. Mogu da razumem sa decom u okolini, ali onda ako razmišljate da nabavite kućnog ljubimca, onda bi možda bilo bolje da nemate decu ili da budete spremni da obojicu trenirate šta je prihvatljivo, a šta nije.

    Sećam se kada je u kući živelo najslađe dugodlako mače, upravo sam nahranio pse, ovo mače je videlo ovo i htelo je da se pridruži. Čuo sam najopakije režanje koje je dopiralo do onog manjeg i to mače je stalo mrtvo i polako se povuklo.

    Posle toga nema problema grin Manji pas je zapravo bio prijateljski nastrojen prema njemu, ali ne sa hranom!

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Too bad everyone doesn't think like you Gene....Unfortunately for any living thing that crosses mankinds path, we must either destroy, control, or manipulate...include mankind itself!

    Šteta što svi ne razmišljaju kao ti Gene....Nažalost za bilo koje živo biće koje pređe put čovečanstva, moramo ili uništiti, kontrolisati, ili manipulisati...uključiti samo čovečanstvo!

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Absolutely NOT.

    That dog is a HERO. And I think this man should be put away for abusing his kid.



    I totally agree!!!

    Apsolutno ne.

    Taj pas je HEROJ. I mislim da bi ovog čoveka trebalo zatvoriti jer je zlostavljao svoje dete.



    Potpuno se slažem!!!
  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    HECK NO!!

    Maybe we should terminate the DAD!!! 

    VRAG NE!!

    Možda bi trebalo da ukinemo TATA!!!

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    How can they kill the dog.  It was doing it's job protecting the owner.

    Kako mogu da ubiju psa. Radilo je svoj posao štiteći vlasnika.

  • Original engleski Prevod srpski

    Would a mother be put to death for defending their young? NO the Dog is clearly loving and shows feeling...if anything the father should suffer...not be put down but suffer. There is absolutely nothing Humane about putting down a protector of a child. Stories like that enrage me Lips, where was this, in what paper did you read? Was it on T.V.?

    BOOIE

    Da li bi majka bila osuđena na smrt zato što je branila svoje mlade? NE Pas očigledno voli i pokazuje osećanja...ako išta, otac treba da pati...ne treba da bude ponižen, nego da pati. Nema apsolutno ničeg humanog u spuštanju zaštitnika deteta. Takve me priče ljute Usne, gde je ovo bilo, u kom si novinu čitao? Da li je bilo na TV-u?

    BOOIE

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