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Well, well, well. Will wonders never cease. I just logged into yahoo and found this article. What an eye opener.
While having clean clothes is obviously both hygienic and neighborly, how they get that way may be more open to imagination and experimentation than you may have considered. And consider you should, because as it turns out, the companies supplying the soaps you use to make your attire springtime fresh may be doing little more than taking you to the cleaners.
According to soap super-seller Proctor and Gamble (their Tide label alone accounts more than 40% of all laundry detergent used in the U.S.) Americans are doing 1,100 loads of laundry every minute of every day. And it's certainly possible that, thanks to new concentrates, many of those loads feature too much detergent.
As you've probably noticed, the latest twist in detergent is to sell us less product at a higher price with "ultra-new-and-improved" concentrates. "Use less soap, save the planet" is the basic idea. But smaller quantities mean more precise measuring is needed: fail to pay attention and you'll pour too much, which doesn't help the earth or your budget ... but does benefit Proctor and other purveyors of these products.
To read more about the conflict over exactly what kind of green concentrated laundry detergents are really designed to produce, check out this article from the Wall Street Journal.
Then consider this dirty little secret the suds salesmen don't want you to know: Some people get by with no detergent at all. Many others save 90% of the cost of store-bought by making it themselves.
I recently did a TV news story showing people how to make their own laundry detergent for a fraction of the cost of store bought. (It's right here on Yahoo!: check it out.)
As I said in my story, while it may sound impossible, laundry detergent may not even be necessary at all. The blog Funny about Money decided to forgo it completely as part of an experiment. Here's a quote:
"By and large, all of the freshly washed clothing came out with an odor: It smelled of clean water!"
You might be surprised to learn that, while clothing has been around since the fig leaf, laundry detergent is relatively new. And yet, ancient people were presumably able to make their clothing at least somewhat clean. How?
As it turns out, something that may be even more effective than soap is agitation. Ancient people used rocks and rivers, but your modern washing machine can clean lightly soiled clothes by just pushing them around in water.
In other words, people actually do get away without using detergent at all. But if the idea of using nothing more than water to wash your gym socks sounds a little scuzzy, not to worry. You can still wring significant savings from your laundry money by making your own detergent. It's not hard.
The Recipe
A quick search online will show you that there's no shortage of homemade laundry soap recipes: Here's one from The Simple Dollar. And we've got 10 more at Money Talks News. But below is one that seems to work pretty well. You'll need:
• 4 cups of water.
• 1/3 bar of cheap soap, grated.
• 1/2 cup washing soda (not baking soda).
• 1/2 cup of Borax (20 Mule Team).
• 5-gallon bucket for mixing.
• 3 gallons of water.
First, mix the grated soap in a saucepan with 4 cups of water, and heat on low until the soap is completely dissolved. Add hot water/soap mixture to 3 gallons of water in the 5-gallon bucket, stir in the washing soda and Borax, and continue stirring until thickened. Let the mix sit for 24 hours, and voila! Homemade laundry detergent.
Of course, who'd post a recipe without trying it out first? I made and washed several loads of clothes with the homemade detergent. And I, like many before me who've traveled this road, couldn't tell the difference between store-bought and homemade.
Total cost per load? In the neighborhood of 2 cents. Store-bought detergent, depending on what you buy and where you buy it, can cost about 20 cents per load -- 10 times more.
So, there are at least two alternatives to the agitation of paying too much for laundry detergent: Ditch it altogether and use nothing more than water in your washer, or save to 90% by making your own laundry detergent.
And here's a final idea for those who, like me, are unlikely to choose either of those options. Since doing this story, I haven't started making my own laundry detergent. I still use the same store-bought concentrate I started with. But I've started using half the amount. Result? No difference at all that I can detect. Now we're really talking green.
Maybe it's time we all laundered a little money!
Dobro dobro dobro. Hoće li čuda nikada ne prestati. Upravo sam se prijavio na Iahoo i pronašao ovaj članak. Kakav otvarač.
Iako je čista odeća očigledno i higijenska i susedska, način na koji se ona postiže može biti otvoreniji za maštu i eksperimentisanje nego što ste mislili. I uzmite u obzir da biste to trebali, jer kako se ispostavilo, kompanije koje isporučuju sapune koje koristite da učinite svoju odeću svežom u proleće možda rade malo više od toga da vas vode na čistače.
Prema superprodavaču sapuna Proctor and Gamble (samo njihova etiketa Tide čini više od 40% svih deterdženata za pranje veša koji se koriste u SAD), Amerikanci peru 1.100 komada veša svakog minuta svakog dana. I svakako je moguće da, zahvaljujući novim koncentratima, mnoga od tih punjenja sadrže previše deterdženta.
Kao što ste verovatno primetili, najnoviji obrt u deterdžentu je da nam prodajete manje proizvoda po višoj ceni sa „ultra-novim i poboljšanim” koncentratima. „Koristite manje sapuna, sačuvajte planetu“ je osnovna ideja. Ali manje količine znače da je potrebno preciznije merenje: ne obratite pažnju i sipati ćete previše, što ne pomaže ni zemlji ni vašem budžetu ... ali koristi Proctoru i drugim dobavljačima ovih proizvoda.
Da biste pročitali više o sukobu oko tačno koje vrste zelenih koncentrovanih deterdženata za pranje veša su zaista dizajnirani za proizvodnju, pogledajte ovaj članak iz Vall Street Journal-a.
Zatim razmislite o ovoj prljavoj maloj tajni koju prodavci pjene ne žele da znate: Neki ljudi prolaze bez deterdženta. Mnogi drugi uštede 90% troškova kupovine u prodavnici tako što ga sami prave.
Nedavno sam napravio TV vesti u kojima sam pokazao ljudima kako da naprave sopstveni deterdžent za veš za delić cene kupljene u prodavnici. (Nalazi se ovde na Iahoo!: pogledajte.)
Kao što sam rekao u svojoj priči, iako možda zvuči nemoguće, deterdžent za veš možda uopšte nije potreban. Blog Funni about Monei odlučio je da ga se potpuno odrekne kao deo eksperimenta. Evo citata:
"Uglavnom, sva sveže oprana odeća je imala miris: mirisala je na čistu vodu!"
Možda ćete biti iznenađeni kada saznate da je, iako odeća postoji još od smokvinog lista, deterdžent za veš relativno nov. Pa ipak, drevni ljudi su verovatno bili u stanju da svoju odeću učine barem donekle čistom. Kako?
Kako se ispostavilo, nešto što je možda čak i efikasnije od sapuna je agitacija. Drevni ljudi su koristili kamenje i reke, ali vaša moderna mašina za pranje veša može da očisti blago zaprljanu odeću tako što će je samo gurnuti u vodu.
Drugim rečima, ljudi se zaista izvuku bez upotrebe deterdženta. Ali ako ideja da koristite samo vodu za pranje čarapa za teretanu zvuči malo neuredno, ne brinite. Još uvek možete da ostvarite značajne uštede od novca za pranje veša tako što ćete napraviti sopstveni deterdžent. Nije teško.
The Recipe
Brza pretraga na mreži će vam pokazati da nema manjka recepata za domaće sapune za pranje veša: Evo jednog iz The Simple Dollar. I imamo još 10 na Monei Talks Nevs. Ali ispod je jedan koji izgleda prilično dobro funkcioniše. Moraćete:
• 4 šolje vode.
• 1/3 bara jeftinog sapuna, narendanog.
• 1/2 šolje sode za pranje (ne sode bikarbone).
• 1/2 šolje boraksa (20 Mule Team).
• Kanta od 5 galona za mešanje.
• 3 galona vode.
Prvo pomešajte rendani sapun u šerpi sa 4 šolje vode i zagrevajte na niskoj temperaturi dok se sapun potpuno ne rastvori. Dodajte mešavinu tople vode/sapuna u 3 galona vode u kanti od 5 galona, umešajte sodu za pranje i boraks i nastavite da mešate dok se ne zgusne. Ostavite mešavinu da odstoji 24 sata i voila! Domaći deterdžent za veš.
Naravno, ko bi objavio recept a da ga prvo ne isproba? Napravio sam i oprao nekoliko tovara odeće sa domaćim deterdžentom. I ja, kao i mnogi pre mene koji su putovali ovim putem, nisam mogao da napravim razliku između kupljenog i domaćeg.
Ukupna cena po utovaru? U blizini 2 centa. Deterdžent kupljen u prodavnici, u zavisnosti od toga šta kupujete i gde ga kupujete, može koštati oko 20 centi po punjenju -- 10 puta više.
Dakle, postoje najmanje dve alternative za preskupo plaćanje deterdženta za pranje veša: potpuno ga odbacite i ne koristite ništa više od vode u mašini za pranje veša ili uštedite do 90% tako što ćete napraviti sopstveni deterdžent za veš.
I evo poslednje ideje za one koji, poput mene, verovatno neće izabrati bilo koju od ovih opcija. Od kada sam napravio ovu priču, nisam počeo da pravim sopstveni deterdžent za veš. Još uvek koristim isti koncentrat kupljen u prodavnici sa kojim sam počeo. Ali počeo sam da koristim polovinu količine. Rezultat? Nema nikakve razlike koju mogu da primetim. Sada stvarno govorimo o zelenom.
Možda je vreme da svi operemo malo novca!
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Hi Gene,
An interesting note on Proctor and Gamble urban legend that many still believe today. I know i for one always thought that it was true. Having grown up at the time the rumors were floating around!
This logo is on every product that Proctor and Gamble makes. It was rumored that it was symbolism to the satan.
P&G logo, which featured the man in the moon in a circle along with 13 stars. The stars and the circle were an outgrowth of an old symbol that was used to identify cartons of Star Candles, an early P&G product. There were 13 stars to symbolize the 13 colonies. The man in the moon was added around the turn of the century for no better reason than the fact that it was a popular symbol at the time.
Somehow people made the leap from this to satanism. Some said that if you held the logo up in front of a mirror, you could see "666" (the "mark of the beast," symbolic of the Antichrist) in the swirls in the man in the moon's beard. Others said you got 666 if you connected the stars with curving strokes.
According to Legend:
The President of Procter & gamble appeared on the Phil Donahue Show on March 1, 1994. He announced that due to the openness of our society, he was coming out of the closet about his association with the church of Satan. He stated that a large portion of his profits from Procter & Gamble Products goes to support this satanic church. When asked by Donahue if stating this on t.v. would hurt his business, he replied, "THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH CHRISTIANS IN THE UNITED STATES TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE."
This is false and the president never appeared on Phil Donahue. For which several law suits were against Amway Corp for supposedly starting the rumors.
Just a little fun fact of urban legend!!
LipsZdravo Gene,
Zanimljiva beleška o urbanoj legendi Proctor and Gamble u koju mnogi veruju i danas. Znam da sam na primer uvek mislio da je to istina. Pošto sam odrastao u vreme kada su se širile glasine!
Ovaj logo je na svakom proizvodu koji proizvodi Proctor and Gamble. Pričalo se da je to simbolizam za satanu.
P&G logo, koji je predstavljao čoveka na Mesecu u krugu zajedno sa 13 zvezdica. Zvezde i krug su bili izdanak starog simbola koji je korišćen za identifikaciju kartona Star Candles, ranog P&G proizvoda. Bilo je 13 zvezda koje simbolizuju 13 kolonija. Čovek na Mesecu je dodat na prelazu vekova bez boljeg razloga od činjenice da je to bio popularan simbol u to vreme.
Nekako su ljudi od ovoga prešli u satanizam. Neki su rekli da ako držite logo ispred ogledala, možete da vidite „666“ („žig zveri“, simbol Antihrista) u kovitlacima čoveka u mesečevoj bradi. Drugi su rekli da dobijate 666 ako povežete zvezde zakrivljenim potezima.
Prema legendi:
Predsednik Procter & Gamble pojavio se u emisiji Phil Donahue Shov 1. marta 1994. On je najavio da zbog otvorenosti našeg društva izlazi iz ormara o svojoj povezanosti sa crkvom Satane. On je naveo da veliki deo njegovog profita od Procter & Gamble Products ide za podršku ovoj satanističkoj crkvi. Kada ga je Donahju pitao da li bi ovo navođenje na televiziji štetilo njegovom poslu, on je odgovorio: „NEMA DOVOLJNO HRIŠĆANA U SJEDINJENIM DRŽAVAMA DA PRAVE RAZLIKU“.
Ovo je lažno i predsednik se nikada nije pojavio na Filu Donahjuu. Za koje je nekoliko tužbi bilo protiv Amvai Corp-a zbog navodnog pokretanja glasina.
Samo mala zabavna činjenica urbane legende!!
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This legend should be true!
The existence of Evil (i.e. Satan) is necessary to bring on the Good in all of us, even the washing machines. By this there is no more need to heat up the water in the washing machines, because it would be already boiling (doesn´t get hotter in hell for water).
NOW: You do not only save energy, get the cleanest (cooked) clothes but you could also save the planet. Team up with satan, connect a turbine to your washing machine and start to produce energy. Think of this: Millions of micro power houses. Who would we need oil, gas or nuclear power anymore?
Let Satan and P+G do the (clean) dirty work!Ova legenda bi trebala biti istinita!
Postojanje Zla (tj. Satane) je neophodno da unese dobro u sve nas, čak i u mašine za pranje veša. Time više nema potrebe za zagrevanjem vode u mašinama za pranje veša, jer bi već ključala (ne zagreva se u paklu za vodu).
SADA: Ne samo da štedite energiju, dobijate najčistiju (kuvanu) odeću, već možete i da spasite planetu. Udružite se sa satanom, povežite turbinu sa mašinom za pranje veša i počnite da proizvodite energiju. Razmislite o ovome: milioni mikroelektrana. Kome bi nam više bila potrebna nafta, gas ili nuklearna energija?
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Rokko,
I can tell you have given this alot of thought. You first with this plan of yours and let us know how it works!!!
If you don't grow horns and a tail then we know we are safe......he he he!!
LipsRokko,
Mogu reći da ste mnogo razmišljali o tome. Vi prvo sa ovim svojim planom i javite nam kako funkcioniše!!!
Ako ti ne rastu rogovi i rep onda znamo da smo bezbedni......he he he!!
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I spend a ton on detergent with 7 people in the household. I could definately could benefit from the "Do it yourself" soap.
I should give it a try!
Sa 7 ljudi u domaćinstvu potrošim tonu na deterdžent. Definitivno bih mogao imati koristi od sapuna "Uradi sam".
Trebalo bi da probam!
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I heard that rumor as well, and spent part of my life staying away from Proctor and Gamble products, i was told they were evil and trying to spread it, to keep it out of your house. If you had it in your home you were inviting evil. I did finally get over it and did realize.. but i still to this day always have that impact in the back of my mind still deciding am i doing the right thing..
Making your own soaps is good, i used to do it.. my daughters father did to, i used to think he was such a cheapie, but in alot of ways he was really smart. he'd make all kinds of cleaners, furniture polishes, carpet cleaners all from scratch..Čuo sam i tu glasinu, i proveo sam deo svog života držeći se podalje od Proctor and Gamble proizvoda, rečeno mi je da su zli i da pokušavaju da ih šire, da ih drže podalje od vaše kuće. Ako ste ga imali u svom domu, pozivali ste na zlo. Konačno sam preboleo to i shvatio sam.. ali i dan-danas uvek imam taj uticaj u pozadini svog uma i dalje odlučujem da li radim pravu stvar..
Pravljenje sopstvenih sapuna je dobro, ja sam to radio.. otac moje ćerke je to radio, mislio sam da je tako jeftin, ali na mnogo načina je bio zaista pametan. napravio bi sve vrste sredstava za čišćenje, lakova za nameštaj, sredstava za čišćenje tepiha, sve od nule..
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