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ok people ill start:

i recently made some posts in different topics, about the virtual casino group, which are, to my regret still listed in some sections here, and on other respected gaming forums.

i will not promise they will be removed, but i can try to increase the level of awareness of the group of people i also belong to: the players.

the industry as a whole, lives and dies by the players: casino's and affiliates should never forget that.
most casino's do know, and act accordingly: however, just like banks used to be there only by the initial trust of the people that entrusted them their money, they are becoming forces of their own.
with force i mean that they have gained a lot of financial assets, so what happens then is that roles reverse, meaning they have the feeling clients/players are lucky they can be in their clientele/registered user-database, and for instance banks now make you pay for everything that was once for free, despite the fact they have made millions and millions of our money already, and as for casino's: they have stretched and bended terms and conditions, and increased bonuses, but also wagering requirements to increase their "house-edge".
this in itself is not the worst: these are things a player can learn through carefully reading/studying the house rules, and forums such as these, and in the end it will be the players choice to agree and then deposit (or not-deposit) and play there.
worse is by far the fact that casino's (banks have issues too but thats for  a different forum ^^) sometimes will even try to cheat, void winnings justly earned, or ban players for illigitimate reasons, to increase their own bankroll.
as if it wasnt big enough.
there are casinos out there which operate without  a decent license, there are scammers, spammers and virus-distributors.
if we as players find these, we should report them everywhere we can , inform our co-players to take their bags and leave, and blacklist those casino's or affilliates or scammers everywhere and everyway we can.
thats my opinion, and i know that im not alone:)

so ill start this topic like this, and will post  a link to microgaming's own site (if its removed then i know i was out of line ) where you can see how  a software provider blacklists some casino's using their software.

Admin note : you can post info but not links to other gambling related sites/forums <--- im not surprised, i was unsure about posting it, but if one asks, could i pm them?



with this link and example, i hope everyone of you will provide actual information they find out, this is not supposed to be a topic where you will post omg this casino sucks, or they didnt pay me or any complaint.
this is for facts and figures only, one must be able to check this topic and see clear info, not scroll through hundreds of posts that dont provide actual info:
i am not  a power, and i cannot help anyone getting  their money back, i cannot check if any complaint you post is valid, i do not have contact with casino rep's, and i dont have enough time to do so even if i wanted.
this is to prevent, not to cure!
i will update as soon and often as i can.
regards

your happy new member!

so in conclusion the list as of to day is this:   update 14-06-2010
RTG software:                                                              
The virtual group                                                                                        

Bet Royal Casino
Cirrus Casino
Club Player
Cool Cat Casino
Dreams Casino
Ladyluckscasino
Luckyacescasino
Palace of Chance
Party City Casino
Playersupportcenter
Prism Casino
Slots of Vegas
Vip Lounge Casino
The Virtual Casino
Wild Vegas Casino
Planet 7 Casino
Goldstream Casino
Pharaohs Gold Casino
Catseye Casino
Royal Ace Casino
Captain Jack Casino
Silver Oak Casino
Slot Madness

Microgaming software:
Grand prive group

Belle Vegas Online
Casino Grand Bay
Grand Bay Poker
Kasino Grand Bay
Lake Palace Casino
Jupiter Club Casino
Road House Reels Casino
Fortune Junction Casino
Jackpot Wheel Casino
Villa Fortuna Casino
Big Dollar Casino
Villa Fortuna Affiliates
Grand Prive Affiliates

Playtech software:
the golden palace group

Caesar's Gold (www .goldencaesar.com)
Casino Depot
Crazy Horse
Easy Rider
Flamingo (www .flamingoclub.com)
Gold Nugget (www .24ktgoldcasino.com)
Golden Palace
Grand Online
Grand Riviera
Kosher (www .koshercasino.co.il)
L'Oasis (www .oasisclubcasino.com)
Lucky Charm
Merlins (www .merlinsmagiccasino.com)
Mystique (www .casinomystique.com)
Online Vegas
Pacific Princess (www .pacificprincessonline.com)
Premiere (www .thepremiere.com)
Ramses Valley of Kings (www .rvcasino.com)
Six Shooter (www .thesixshooter.com)
Star Online (www .thestarcasino.com)
Top Card (www .tcardcasino.com)
Triple Win
Tropicana Club (www .tclubcasino.com)

Rival software:

ALL are to be treated with care untill better news from the online gaming world is presented, but especially un-recommended are Slotsofcash, Mayan Palace,Traditon and Dendera


G-Fed Csinos:

casino.at
casinofreedom.com
casinoitalia.net
casinopokerlasvegas.com
goldencairocasino.com
jeuxdecesar.com
k2casino.com
luckygatecasino.com
majorslots.com
maximuscasino.com
maximuspoker.com
mr-casino.com
onlinecasinofever.com
pinkladycasino.com




New rogues:

Betsoft Licensing:

7RED casino

Odds On software:

Casino Silver

Under review/suspicion of rmalpayment:

EUcasino

i see  33 views but no response...  a thank you for the trouble would be nice
also some links, or p'ms with possible updates? regards dirk

Hi Dirk,

I would like to say first off - I've been getting a long needed haircut today so I've not seen your posts until now.

Secondly, you have put an awful lot of work into this thread and you have done a really great job.

Lastly but not least, a huge thank you for all your hard work on this thread.  I am truly grateful to you and I know you have probably spent a very long time gathering all the information that was scattered around the forum.

Great job - great post.

blue

I agree with Blue on this Dirk....Youve done alot of work, and it shows.

I too appreciate this post, and your hard work.

Keep these great posts coming.....

                                                  PMM

i agree with you why play these casino's that wait months to pay if at all when there are so many others with the same games? great job i hope everyone pays attention

I have been in read a lot about this casino. I would never put money in them. Make a fool out of me one time that all it take . Thank you for the list I hope you do not need to add to it. But you know there is not a thing we can do when they treat us bad just not play in there.

Thank you for all the hard work you put in,Dirk!
I appreciate the fact that you ran extra miles to help others and it surely shows it... 
I am really glad that you joined our family and seeing you enjoying our site make us feel proud!!!!! 

Hey Dirk,

I personally thank you for your work and the list. It is nice to know that you are looking out for other people. That is what LCB is all about. Helping each other and learning new things.

I have a question though, Do you play at any Rival casinos? I am not sure what to think about them because of all the mixed reviews here at LCB. Up until yesterday I had only played the LCB sign up bonus at 1 Rival casino.

I have only read your post today and I agree with you on all the casinos on the list.  Now the million dollar question.... Where can we put up a billboard with this list so everyone on earth can see it?


Nice Job Dirk. And Welcome to LCB I can see you are going to be a valuable member here.

LH

im actually trying out all rival casinos now, so my next update will be on them 

Here is a quote from one of Taaadaaa's threads which should be added to the list (financial problems):

The Grand Prive group has been a reputable group with me. Always get paid rather quickly and have been playing with them since they were formed.....

This is just wonderful your doing all this work. Great job! But I don't agree. I have been paid by coolcat and I'm not talkin a small amount. I'm talkin thousands! I had a thought that might and might not be valid. But I hear alot of people whining about rogue casinos. What about rogue players that are not putting up their hard earned money, yet expect to be paid like yesterday on free chip winnings. These casinos are in BUSINESS to make money not give it away hence GAMBELING! I don't care what site you go to they want to win they don't want us to. So when I read things on this site it is food for thought. But God gave me a brain to use. And on line gaming gave me a laptop to SPIN!

yes nice to hear they have also paid people, but i can assure you they have also tried to NOT pay  a lot of people, and in some cases "succeeded".
i must applaud you for the remark i have  a brain, cause there you hit the nail on the head.
anyone can of course go to those casino's listed: this list is just  a warning sign, and if one wishes to take their chances with them, well, we all are gamblers

pun intended!

rogue players  are bad for buisness as well i agree on that too, but i think that when you OPERATE  a buisness, its your own risk, as customer however, with no bad intentions other then winning some money (for which you mostly have to put your own on the line) you should be protected. the rogue players are now  a rare institute, where as online scams, and rule bending entities are booming.
anyway i respect your opinion! i wont be playing there anytime soon however!

cheers

Yes thank you it is my opinion and your can be respected as well. This is a great site to vent. I have noticed some comments as to reputable casinos that I have tried out and not so much as gotten a feature. Just watched my money disappear. So I can say they don't play fair, but I think sometimes geographic and time of play and just plain luck all have some say in it. So it could be coolcat is good for me an not for say someone in Japan. AHHH who knows I just enjoy spinning the reels.

Grand Prive group is under investigation for alot of things, there is a big thread on another forum about it. Becareful Forcarr, I am sure one of the things they are being investigated for is not paying people.

LH

i copypasted this text from  a different forum i visit, have  taken out the links :


A new set of Real Time Gaming casinos has recently appeared:

Planet 7 Casino
Goldstream Casino
Pharaohs Gold Casino
Catseye Casino
Royal Ace Casino
Captain Jack Casino
Silver Oak Casino

However, these casinos are not new at all; they are, in fact, the casinos of the Crystal Palace group, under the ownership of the now deceased Warren Cloud, renamed by the new owner. To add further intrigue, that new owner is the Virtual Casino group, an older and, if anything, worse lot than the former Warren Cloud stable - see the Virtual group rogue listing.

I established the Warren Cloud connection after downloading one of the casinos, Royal Ace, and finding login details already in place, suggesting I'd played at this casino before - which would be impossible as the casino is new. I had the following chat with a customer service rep, which established the relationship with the now defunct High Rollers' Lounge, one of the former Cloud stable:



Me: Hello
Rep: How may i help you?
Me: I downloaded the software and it came up as saying I already have an account, but I've never played here before. I don't want to register a new account as it'll land me in difficulties, but I don't understand what's happened. Do you have any idea?
Rep: please provide me with your username
Me: xxx
Rep: xxx?
Me: yup
Me:
Me: OK, but why did this casino bring up my old username?
Rep: yes because maybe you had one with HighRoller casino.

The other casinos in the group were established by a poster at ***********, who correctly guessed the Warren Cloud connection.

The relationship with the Virtual Casino group was established by another *********** poster, who had the following chat; she also confirmed the Cloud connection in the process:



Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with Danielle.
Susan xxxxxxx: Hello. I don't remember playing at Catseye but seem to have an account.
Susan xxxxxxx: Did this casino used to have another name?
Danielle: yes
Danielle: it was Power Bet Casino
Susan xxxxxxx: Is it part of Virtual casino group?
Danielle: yes
Susan xxxxxxx: Thank you very much.
Danielle: welcome

So, the old Warren Cloud casinos have now been taken over and re-branded by Virtual; somewhat ironically, this effectively merges into one group the two biggest and worst RTG groups in existence.

As a reminder, here are the eight old Warren Cloud / new Virtual casinos once more:

Planet 7 Casino
Gold Stream Casino
Pharaohs Gold Casino
Lucky Palm Casino
Cats Eye Casino
Ringmaster Casino
Royal Ace Casino
Captain Jack Casino
Silver Oak Casino


It's my advice that all the above casinos be avoided at all costs - patronising Virtual will land you with many possible cashout problems, and an extreme liklehood of not being paid at all.

i would have love to expand my list on the rival softqware, but since they dont give bonuses to dutch people, im not really inclined to spend money there forming an opinion
i will do some research soon.

Hi,

The list that you have provided is no doubt very good and I must say playing online casinos is not that harmful the only thing you require is good strategies and recommended or official sites that are necessary and trustworthy.

Thanks

LINK REMOVED

Your 4 other posts have been deleted and you got yourself a ban.

blue

dirkemans, what is and if any your take or findings on the vegas techs?

also thank you so much for the list and work you are doing as a member it's appreciated by me..

one last thing is .. gosh.. we have to add best damn bingo unless theres an update in reconcilement they have not been paying their chat hosts and are being dropped...

i had big troubles installing vegastech, my pc went nuts, and lets just say it needs a lot to act like that ^^
so i decided not to play there, i dont really trust their software, but i honestly cant say anything about them.

i could do that bingo thing, but then id have to check out all other bingo's, and i dont really like bingo

i will think about it though, if you send  me  a pm, with  a link to that info, i will surely check it out
cheers

mmm... i didn't see go casino on that list or am i blind?

no dear poppy, but if you look at my reply just before your post, you will see that i havent tested vegastech casinos, i dont trust their software, but i cant say anything sincere about it:)
i am open to pm's with links to reliable sources that would incline me to add them.
here on the forum, the info is too mixed, to just put them there
i hope that answers your question!

Dirk and all-

Thanks for making this forum breath! I am new to online gaming in the last few months. I wish I had started out with this list of no pay casinos. I have met play through on several of these and won a few hundred dollars but there is always an excuse not to pay.

Is there somewhere in this forum that there is a list of recommended casinos? I do really enjoy online slots but it would be nice to play some where that there  is actually hope of collecting winnings.

Thanks, Dirk!

I will check out your suggestions as well as browse the forums.

Not sure what to do about the casinos I have played that still won't pay. Maybe it is just time to give up!

cjwiley, may i also suggest with as you say you are having a hard time with some casinos paying you that you check out LCB's section of direct casino support, maybe the casino you are having a hard time with has a rep here.

Also on the front page of the LCB's forums section theres a search button you can put the name of the casino and see what others have to say about it, could be some advice or ways others have handled situations

A Rival to avoid is Mayan Fortune. The stole my $1500 withdrawal with no reasons and no explanations.No responses to my numerous emails. After a week and intervention by a third party I received an email saying they had returned the money to my account. I am now waiting for the withdrawal to be processed. The treatment I received from them was shocking, despite being a VIP Super elite player for over 3 years and depositing thousands of dollars. Would avoid this one and any of the Pantasia casinos like the plague. Their customer service is non existant. They wont respond to emails. If the third party had not interviened I would never have this money back. They had already refused to return the withdrawal. If you need any further information about this incident please email me direct.

sorry hadnt seen this last reply will be checking on them next couple of  days..
EDIT

ok added!
also added silver dollar and 7red PLEASE  DONT sign up at any of the listed casinos, for your own sake

dirkemans, thank you this is fantastic work you are doing here!!!!

wow im  a bit busy atm, there are some crazy things going on in gambling
land, more on it shortly i hope..

Great thread Dirk, thank you for the idea and efforts you've put into it.

This is terrific, & u've put alot of time in...... much appreciated

That being said..........& please 4give, but I'm gonna disagree w/ the Lake Palace listing.... I've posted this thought on here b4, but will say again: I've been playing Lake Palace for YEARS..... since day 1, I have had nothing but phenomenal success w/ them.  Quick payouts...... no ridiculous faxing of documents...... terrific customer support...... heck, as I've said, I've been there for YEARS & have YET 2 b asked 2 provide ANY kind of utility bill; driver's license; etc.  They also periodically send me freebies, including a 100 n/d coupon that I ended up cashing out over $3,000 on.  So... okay... I'm done
Thanks again 4 all of the info.... nice job

ok thanks tinman, and im happy for you that your one of the ones with good experiences.
still doesnt take away that the majority of the players have encountered issues.
just google  a few days, on the group they are part of, and youll surely be appaled.
i will remind you that everyone is free to go where they want.
and  if you have good experiences.. well then i would be inclined to say i would probably also stay there...
cheers

ok as promised an update.

i have spend the last month trying out rival and several bonus offers.
ill start off saying, that i think their slots are pure eyecandy, and have the worst RTP ive encountered so far.
of course there are a lot of us that want to have fun, and for that the slots are ok, but i advise to play in fun mode then...
lately there have been  a lot of issues regarding rival casinos, and on the other hand at least 8 new ones have popped up.

i will warn you guys, that rival appears to be taking  a fall, and it looks like  a pretty big one to me.
they have been caught cheating, i.e with blackjack, ive seen proof of this, and in three weeks , this has been only strongened by the excuses that those casinos and rival themselves gave.

it reminds me of the virtual group.
lying, making up excuses, abusing the name they have built up so far.
cheating, paying stallments, you name it, they have been doing it lately.
the worst thing is, were talking about "reputable" casinos

let me tell you that nicholas, our greatest rep ever, hasnt left the sinking ship for nothing...

i advise all of you, to withdraw your remaining funds, and see what happens in the next three months.

i am very worried for you, luckily i dont have remaining funds:)
this is really  a serious matter, so i would stick to MG, PlayTech and RTG for now, and the other smaller platforms, that you are playing and happy with for now.

Thanks for the update Dirk and looking out for everyones best intrests.  I thought it was weird how Nic just up and left. Judging from my experience, Rival has been super tight. At first I thought "oh it must be me having a really long run of bad luck", but now that I've heard it from so many others I guess Its not me.

Thank You dirk this is wonderful, your work is appreciated, i have some of the same feelings as you with the rivals.

Also i beleive we should warn people about emailing (emails get ignored) and alot of chat/live support is so untrained and/or careless (all casinos)
which in turn causes alot more problems and uncertainties with all casinos.

Dirk, whats your take on Top Game?

up untill now mixed feelings, i like the software, but only have tried  a few 10$ no deposits, will be my next project then
have to save some cash to deposit and withdrawal ^^

Really, you like the software? What games do you (or anyone feel free to jump in)  like to play on topgame? I cant seem to find one I really like or have fun with

i like all their slots i played, bingoslot, diablo, vikings etc, but i havent played enough really, they all seemed ok, but since i only played with the 10$ no deposit, i dont really know if i REALLY like em

I was refereed by blueday on this one, the reason being I was looking for the list of casinos with warnings. Great research by you guys. Thanks.

WOW I just now seen this page. Interesting, and good work dirk!

There may be enough evidence to form a class action suit against these casinos since so many people agree to have been the injured party.
  Thanks for all of the info. Those guys who run those crooked casinos are big poopy heads. Rich, poopy heads. Rich, cheating, poopy heads.

As suggested by blueday, I would like to request that EUCasino is added to the list of casinos to avoid.

To summarise: They did not pay me my balance of £500, citing a breach of terms, which I have refuted. Since then, they falsely stated that I have had every opportunity to contact support and that I acknowledged a breach of the terms. They also falsely stated on CasinoMeister (for which they were put under warning, now under review) that the situation had been resolved between myself and the affiliate (i.e. LCB).

Further details can be found here:

https://lcb.org/onlinecasinobonusforum/casinos/eu-casino-warning/

I will remove my warning if EUCasino honour their side of the agreement and pay me my balance in full.

this is not nice, and im inclined to believe your story, however im not really certain.
i only put casinos in the list that have proven rogue by several entites, or my own experiences.
this is the reason i havent been updating lately: i already lost so much cash to rogues, that i am sticking to the ones  i trust these times.
as soon as i have more cash, i will try eucasino, and make my own experience.
i am actually on topgame tryouts atm, so that was my first priority, but i will put eucasino above that, cause two of our members have had issues.
im really sorry this happened to you and the other person.
i will put  them as under review as well, it just will take  a little time